Shame on you!

What did they change about the M2 Hyde?

There is no competitions on the market. All those buy 2 play arma like games and battlefield are not a competition for a free2play shooter with “session mmo” mechanics as perks, upgrades, progression and so on. There is literally nothing on the market now to offer and this is exactly what enlisted aims for.

Its like comparing world of tanks and warthunder. You do understand these are way to different games? They create different feeling, aiming towards different play styles, different people and different thinking.

Enlisted isnt just a new classic world war shooter, it aims at new game niche.

not true
I can’t go into details I’m too tired

Let’s get back to the main topic or I’m calling the moderator

Heroes & Generals for free to play
Battlefield / CoD for short sessions/arcade
Squad/PS/etc for realism/sim

Sure you are mix-n-matching stuff from all the other games, but if you are interested in one of those specific things and not all 3, you have no reason to pick Enlisted over the other games.

they reduced the recoil so it now has the same recoil and more RoF compared to m3

Even if I agree with you, I still want us to get back to the main ttopic

there is no topic to this thread :joy:

I wanted players to give mini-suggestions and mini-bug reports but not pointless arguing

well “shame on you”, but people always argue

and people can always stop arguing

And that is how we obtained world peace. Right.
Not happening, lol.

Well technically the M2 Hyde was the best handling US SMG when firing automatically. The M3 with it’s wire stock I would expect to have more horizontal recoil, but not necessarily more vertical recoil.

Again, I think the largest problem with premium squads is (first) the vitality and extra damage upgrades, and (second) all soldiers and weapons are fully upgraded with all the best perks that would take a player a very long time to upgrade to with regular soldiers/weapons.

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that’s true but the main problem is players like mooleu who want p2w

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I must say that i like H&G for their ideas, but its quite poor on graphics and effects. It feels just old and outdated with different strengths compared to enlisted. It’s a good f2p alternative, but not the case where one would replace another simply as improved version of the same.

CoD is a bullshit game famous mostly in USA and consoles. I literally have not a single friend, or friends friend or their buddies playing cod.

Battlefield - fine. B2P AAA game…fine. Its not an easy task to compete against AAA title of that kind, i would rather keep distance and implement more things NOT like battlefield (like perks) for this instead of making it look like battefield to loose on their battlefield.

as forza horizon dev (arcade racing game) you dont create a game to get some players from iRacing or asseto corsa sim. These are completely different people and game preferences. People playing squad and arma - should keep playing these games.

doesnt make the gameplay any less good. As such, they are direct competitors.

In western europe and australia as well. It simply isn’t as popular in eastern europe and asia.
Both it and battlefield are very arcadelike games. Adding more perks, being arcadelike features not grounded in realism, would make Enlisted more like them, actually. (they would at least have to change the wording of them to become immersive / grounded in reality, such as “running training” for the stamina or whatever, and/or make obtaining them be based on your performance, such as running a lot giving you more stamina, instead of it being fully random, which alone could improve my perception of these perks)

Which is why we aren’t adding stuff like KV-1 in Moscow, as despite it being realistic, it isn’t fun for anyone not using it. And Enlisted isn’t interesting in making the game less fun in favor of realism.

Battlefield wont agree with you. Its the same game all over again with new effects. People often play games for their style, graphics, audio quality, and so on.

They dont add something simply because it needs to be balanced and they have to follow some kind of timeline or base rules.

Battlefield releases what is essentially one big content update every year with their new AAA title. People play it because the old game got stale. Sure better graphics help, but it’s not like last year’s Battlefield looks so much better than the one from 2 years ago. However, with the F2P, long progression nature of games like Enlisted and H&G, that is not much an issue. War Thunder and WoT also still get played despite being as old as they are, because they are also that same F2P long progression kind of game.

However, the progression system must be fair for new players to start playing for actually free for the game to grow. And in its current state, Enlisted absolutely does not do that at all.

I don’t have any way of confirming this but it feels like germany is doing a bit worse than the US in most maps

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M1 garand and Auto 5 need a nerf

Auto 5?