Shame on you!

When using the Auto 5, I die more than I kill. The weapon can certainly be good in some situations but in most situations, the weapon relies on luck too much.

The reason for this is because Auto 5 shoots a very small amount of highly inaccurate pellets.
I want to call everyone who has it to see these pictures
@47094123 @ErikaKalkbrenner @8383908 @_31420124242011

I shot both TOZ and Auto 5 from around 5-6m range, I was aiming for the center and these are the results:

This is how a shot from TOZ B registers

About 9-10 pellets hit the black circle

This is how Auto 5 looks like


Only 4 pellets hit the black circle. Other pellets were everywhere around the board

And remember, this is only 5-6m range which is the most common range when raiding houses and bunkers

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Yeah that seems about right. Whereas the TOZ is a cloud of angry bees, the Auto 5 is a spread of soon to be harmless shot.
You need to spam it to get someone at any distance past room clearing.

looking at the damage values, TOZ B pellet deals about 2 times more damage than the Auto 5 pellet

So I think in this test, TOZ would have made about 4 times higher damage than the Auto 5

When I was test firing the auto-5 I was equally disappointed.

But I found in practice that it works well in Normandy’s worst map- Le Bri or whatever that cheese is.
Defending on invasion especially I can just lay down inside the house and trapshoot people who run in.

Also found out while doing that that it’s now much much easier to throw back grenades, as I tossed a few that were getting spammed at me.

laughs in ruins of vaux

I like that map alot for long-range fights.

Also yesterday when I was laying down sniping in the tower, turned around to build an ammo point, and noticed a German sniper shooting out the opposite window behind me who somehow hadn’t noticed me.

It can work on long range but the main issue is that ruins of vaux is sooo…lame

The map is just so stupidly done, it looks like a map from some old 1999 game

Long range gameplay on ‘‘chateau de bosque’’, ‘‘le bre invasion’’ and ‘‘D-day’’ is full of cool positions and those maps are just fun in general

…but ruins of vaux is just… a square inside the circle
this is how the map looks like:
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not really?

C-to-B is pretty built up with cover along all lanes, while A is one big ass open field to negotiate with a few trenches.

that’s pretty unironically accurate.

although. it’s my favorite 3: .

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I noticed this very first time I unlocked this shotgun (as I´m testing every weapon on shooting range before actually using it in matches). In short range, it usually kills the target unless you are shooting from the side (we are talking about the range of defending house entrance from the end of the small room just to give you an idea), but it also gets significantly worse with every additional meter of distance while TOZ can still absolutely annihilate its target (or even multiple targets).

Oh, by the way - I apologize if I offended anyone. You or anyone. My style is way too crass or something lol I need to chill

Your polls are fine, I wasn’t talking about your polls in particular. But yeah, apologize, if I offended anyone, just semi-trolling on forumz lolol

No, please

you didn’t offend anyone, it was just a simple argument

It wasn’t me who flagged your comments, my comments were flagged too

I think the reason for that is we used the word s***posting a bit too much.
I wasn’t offended at all, I just think polls should be taken more seriously
Just a small argument, there were a lot more offensive players on this forum than you

But I have to admit, my polls can be messy sometimes

I am getting really tired of getting shot by squad bots through like 3 layers of bushes from over 100m away just because I shot at someone in there general direction.

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devs promissed to fix this in the next major update

Turning off cross platform, without giving the player choice.

I play from console because my PC isn’t so good and now I can’t play with one of my friends at all!

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I don’t like it too

Just allow xbox players to play on keyboard

No need to divide the player base

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Thank god. Any news about a BF110 rocket nerf ? ( he asks hopefully )

No

Some German mains were denying that they overperform so devs don’t have enough evidence to nerf them

Imo, I could just make a poll about it, that’s how I always beat spam-posters

i don’t agree with render distance, count on your markers set by the team.

As if they will always accurately mark targets that you can hit at the moment where you are about to strike. You cannot rely on random teammates.

The entire mansion of that one Normandy map just DOES NOT RENDER AT ALL outside of 500m, while in reality you would see the building even from 2km out.