Replace the FG42 with the STG44 - to make it even with the M2

True, but Thompson has many different configurations. 20rd mag, 30rd mag, 50rd drum, 100rd drum. Just give it the 20rd mag so it practically behaves like a M2 Hyde and it wouldn’t need the high tier slot. Then you can just copy paste the MP-38 from Moscow for its mirror slot and done.

Theyll probably add all of the versions at some point. They mainly used the 30 round magazines and the M1A1 thompson if this for Normandy though.

I would really hope to never see the drum variants, as they were not really used by the military, as the army didn’t like how bulky the drums were. They were very impractical. So that would only leave the 20rd and 30rd.

As the gun has a drastically higher firerate than the M3/M3A1 grease guns, I think the 20rd magazine would be better in terms of balance, just like how the M2 Hyde has a higher firerate at the cost of that 10rd capacity. I don’t want to see another one of those cases where the newbie stuff is completely obsolete.

If we go to pacific I’m hoping for a drum as it was issued and used alot in the earlier years but again balance will always be an issue

I am not too familiar with Japanese weapons. So I wouldn’t know what kind of automatic weapons they’d have to counter the BAR, M1919 or Thompson. I just made suggestions based on my knowledge of what was used in Normandy, as well as what would be better balanced.

Very very limited. They had a few LMGs and only really one SMG that still wasnt very common. No semi autos. It would be very hard to make the Japanese “equal” unless they gave them drastic abilities

Who would have thought that balancing a game based on a real life war would be this difficult, it’s almost as if every side tried to gain an advantage over the other :rofl:

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It’s simple: FG42 is also counter for AVT40 in Berlin, which are both rifles for every soldier. If you restrict FG42 in Normandie, you may have to also restrict that in Berlin, and for the same reason, you have to restrict AVT40 in Berlin, and I don’t think it would happen. Russian players, which makes up the greatest part of this game since CBT, would not accept that.

Different campaigns, different rules. Havent played Berlin so I havent talked about Berlin, we were talking about normandy balance hence the M2. I’m certain there will be massive balance issued in Berlin once they drop the paywall curtain

This suggestion wouldn’t fix any historical accuracy issues because the M2 Carbine was never called M1/M2. Once an M1 was converted into an M2 with the T17 or T18 conversion kits and had a ‘2’ stamped over the ‘1’, it was an M2 Carbine. Using the name ‘M1/M2’ for converted carbines would actually be historically inaccurate.

As far as I am aware, they were still designated M1/M2 Carbine in US inventory. Actual M2 Carbines never saw combat use in Normandy, as they were not ready at that stage of the war.

M1/M2s were converted M1s that were over stamped as you stated. M2s were from the ground up made as M2s. Maybe they did only call them M2s, not certain. I’ve just heard that difference to tell them apart

Yeah, they do have some difference in parts that are not interchangeable. I highly doubt US inventory actually lumped them together, as that would be a logistical nightmare.

Yes, but personally speaking I don’t think there would be another rule(like always). And Russian players don’t care about whether germans have FG42 actually, they have PPD 34/38 in Moscow and PPsh41(in Berlin but not now) which can easily wipe two squads out in the building. And germans also don’t have a counter, so have you ever seen someone complaining about it every day like complaining about FG42 at here? Let alone you would have M1941 Johnson(you can find it in the game folder it’s already finished) as a counter for FG42 and 100 drum Thompson as a counter for MP43 in the future. Just be patient.

Here is my thought:
Replace FG42 with STG44 to counter M2 carbine
Replace Breda Mod. 30 with FG42.

Breda Mod. 30 is not even a common German weapon. I don’t get why Breda is the first gunner weapon of Germans while there is FG42.

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Breda Mod. 30 would probably be more common than FG42. So it’s actually the other way around. Why is FG42 able to be equipped by everything despite being super rare?

If you have any sources, please share them. There’s no reason to call it M1/M2, since once the weapon was converted, it was just an M2. The conversion is also not very likely to be very different than a factory M2, since the M2 was designed as an easy conversion of the M1 from the start.

Correct, but converted M2 Carbines also didn’t see service during this time. Battle of the Bulge is the earliest possible time that a converted M2 could see service, as the M2 wasn’t even standardized and accepted for service until October 1944. Any date before that, the weapon was known as ‘T4 Carbine’

What’s wrong with you

Proper thread continue here instead of this absurd thread FG42 Restriction to a Class/Squad - #13 by 13525657

Breda was not really more common than FG, and there were none in Normandy. They were used only in Italy, if even there as German soldiers hated them and ammo is not compatible with German guns. It would be logistical nightmare for Germans to use those guns.

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