Remove The Stupid Vehicle Squad Restriction for TT Vehicles 🛞

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

sounds like i’m " gatekeeping " and using " muh money " / elitism argument,

but that’s not actually my main point.

main point is,

• we do not need min maxxers to seal club at low br

• we do not need cycler of the same vehicle as it can cause some serious unbalances

hence, it’s best to limit them overall.

[Emperor_Yoshiro]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

do i absolutely need it?
perhaps not.

but it’s because and i can.
( pLaY wArThUndER … fair xd )

Absolutely bad xD Thats what I mean by over kill xD Why do you need so many vehicles ? Literally war thunder mod xD

@ErikaKalkbrenner

cause it will incentivize people to just stay there as they would be able to grind for latter brs.
and we do not need 3 M8 scotss, 3 Panzer IIIs Ns, 3 grants ( weak … case. but still not ideal )
3 tigers, 3 Ju88s etc etc.

Well its the same right now. I don’t see reason to move from BR I Germany to BR II I better skip it and go to BR III. Japan also BR II is dead for the Axis BR II is dead BR. Literally its the worst BR to play but I play it for fun but if I wanted to be having easy times im gonna skip BR II.

@ErikaKalkbrenner

aka, the seal clubbing.
you’re exponentially increasing it.

Well not you are giving more options to players the seal clubbers can do the same I dont see how the seal clubbing will become more ? There is only the KVs and the Lightings that are problem and not to mention you can combine good vehicles from the TT to counter them. Instead of running two Ho-I tanks you will run only 1 and 1 Ta-Se since the lightings will be your biggest problem. I really dont see how the seal clubbing will become more then now since now can be done only by vets. That have legacy squads. Or US cash cows since their faction is P2W. While their Tech tree is dying.

@ErikaKalkbrenner

i mean,
i have yet to see 70% of the premium squads in active matches.

and i play all brs for different experiences.

remember the ppk squad, g41M, SU 76, SU-100, dicker max, WZ semi auto, and many, many other squad?

yeah, well, nobody is using them.
which leads me to believe no one is buying them.

even the " hottest " additions or late are rare passed few weeks.
which i mean, STGs guerillas should be pretty used in latter br.

so i guess it’s fine by then, and they will not reduce prices.

the only time they do it, is during sales.

Well this is exactly that you have sales if a product is selling without a sale you wont decrees the price by 50%. If there is demand for a product no one will decrees its value by 50%.

@ErikaKalkbrenner

i’m sorry, but for sake of commodities, one should not effectively make the gameplay experience for everyone else worse.

Thats has no logic how the experience will get worse when all have the option to do it ? The only people that will lose are the fat vets that had so much time to play the game and yet they are losing to new players I mean Im not gonna cry for such players they deserve it then using their expensive toys and hide behind broken legacy and premium squads. The TT squads and the core of the game is more important then P2W mechanics.

@ErikaKalkbrenner

because weapons don’t have the same implication.
and are balanced mostly by classes already.

They do its a infantry game to this day infantry win the games vehicles dont. Vehicles are fun to use but spawn points are to this day the most important thing and there is maps where vehicles are absolutely useless. You can run 50 jets * Lehrter Bahnhof what you gonna do with them and at lower BRs even worse since they have smaller bombs tanks also have limited play in this map. Really vehicles are fun to use but I have plenty of games having amazing score and yet losing the game since I dont wanna get out of my plane and do the grunt work

@ErikaKalkbrenner

sounds like i’m " gatekeeping " and using " muh money " / elitism argument,

Well thats how it sounds since really there is no logic how giving more options for vehicle combinations is bad for the game ? I mean right now you cant run a spitfire and a hurricane …

[Chris_Vector]

Bro who cares about minmax balance, just let people have fun. I don’t care about running multiple tank swuads, I just want to use any American tank on the only Normandy tank squad I got.

[khtk395]

@BodyBagger111

Enlisted players are a funny bunch: 25% of the votes here are opposed to this. They would get more freedom to choose the tanks that they want to play with, yet they oppose it. I’ve never understood it when they respond this way—it makes no logical sense.

It is because you are using paying players perspective. Now imagine you are a F2P player, will you get more freedom because of this? Not really, since you only have 1 vehicle slot. In other hand you will encounter more vehicle spam which will be harder to counter due to the lack of squad spot. Why would people support stuff that don’t give them advantage and in fact bring more disadvantage to them?

[GeneralBrus]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

if anything, the only way to " fix " said issue, is to remove those older squads completely.

I payed to cycle the same tanks, and I have claimed that free to play players should get a way to unlock squad slots through grind.

The fact that the you people think its unfair to cycle vehicles is stupid. You have 2 tanks per team - and if someone is a dedicated tanker the better.

If I play infantry, I am glad that I got support fire from someone who knows what hes doing.

This even counts more for pilots - most players have one vehicle slot, so they use their planes just as a quick fire and forget “kill streak” to revenge kill a tank, and get right back into infantry action, while a dedicated pilot actually plays the game.

[Emperor_Yoshiro]

F2P players can collect the gold and buy the slot during birthday celebration while good luck collecting the gold from battle passes for premium vehicle squad…

[khtk395]

@Emperor_Yoshiro

F2P players can collect the gold and buy the slot during birthday celebration

Lol you need to grind for 5 battle pass to get the first slot for a faction. There is 4 faction in game. How many players have it? With only 1 additional slot, why must I use it on the same vehicle type? Wouldn’t it be better if I use it on infantry or other vehicle type?

@Emperor_Yoshiro

while good luck collecting the gold from battle passes for premium vehicle squad…

There is little need for F2P player to spam vehicle of a same type in the first place. You are just using paying players perspective.

[Emperor_Yoshiro]

@khtk395

Lol you need to grind for 5 battle pass to get the first slot for a faction. There is 4 faction in game. How many players have it? With only 1 additional slot, why must I use it on the same vehicle type? Wouldn’t it be better if I use it on infantry or other vehicle type?

Normally F2P players focus on one favorite factions since casual players are not non lifers like vets and they play only one faction.

@khtk395

There is little need for F2P player to spam vehicle of a same type in the first place. You are just using paying players perspective.

There is, they become either dedicated tankers or dedicated pilots that 2-3 vehicles is enough for that this means 500 gold for a slot is enough to give them fair chance. Not to mention the vehicles slots in game remains the same 2 tanks and 2 planes so really I dont see how the spam becomes more all I see that vet players gonna lose more their dominance on their slots so new players actually can enjoy the game and will discourage too much vehicle slots being used since if you equip too many vehicle squads and they take your spot well too bad.

[Admiral_Wenli]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

but i very well understand why this won’t be a thing.

The easy fix is make it so you cant use the same vehicle type twice in a row, it would fix the sealclubbers cycling HE spammers while also allowing/encouraging people to make more varied lineups, plus you let the HA crowd have a little bit to eat so they can make their on HA lineups more accurate.

[khtk395]

@Emperor_Yoshiro

Normally F2P players focus on one favorite factions since casual players are not non lifers like vets and they play only one faction.

F2p player doesn’t mean they are casual player that don’t play the game much lol.

@Emperor_Yoshiro

There is, they become either dedicated tankers or dedicated pilots that 2-3 vehicles is enough for that this means 500 gold for a slot is enough to give them fair chance.

There isn’t much dedicated tanker/pilot for f2p players in the first place. Since you must play several months to get gold to buy that additional slot. Players that dislike infantry gameplay already left by that time. I am a f2p player, it is funny to see a paying player try to tell me how f2p players play.

@Emperor_Yoshiro

Not to mention the vehicles slots in game remains the same 2 tanks and 2 planes so really I dont see how the spam becomes more

So in your game all vehicle slot are occupied 24/7? This is clearly not the case. Moreover this also decrease the chance of f2p players getting the vehicles since paying player can just cycle their vehicles.

@Emperor_Yoshiro

all I see that vet players gonna lose more their dominance on their slots so new players actually can enjoy the game

all I see that “paying vet” players gonna lose more their dominance on their slots so “new paying” players actually can enjoy the game and stomp f2p players together.

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@Emperor_Yoshiro

I really dont see how the seal clubbing will become more then now since now can be done only by vets.

regardless is it just vets here and there doing the min/max sealclubbing.
This sht should not be promoted in anymanner.

The cons outweight by large margin the pros.

[AyaseNozomi]

100% yes, since Japan has >=50% of its planes put in Tier 3 pilot squad. Ridiculous.

[Emperor_Yoshiro]

It will be giving many factions the much desired freedom with Japan you will be able to make interesting combinations and with US and UK you will be able to use the right vehicles with the right squad its a win win situation for all expect few grumpy boomers

@TUSUPOLISI69

regardless is it just vets here and there doing the min/max sealclubbing.

Well not there is many new bloods actually on the forum and they are very active. So im passing them the torch

[BodyBagger111]

@GeneralBrus

I payed to cycle the same tanks, and I have claimed that free to play players should get a way to unlock squad slots through grind.

The fact that the you people think its unfair to cycle vehicles is stupid. You have 2 tanks per team - and if someone is a dedicated tanker the better.

If I play infantry, I am glad that I got support fire from someone who knows what hes doing.

AGREED 100%