Remove or change weapon from Normandy campaign

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from ww2db
“During WW2, a large number of them remained in use. The Netherlands, financially weak in the 1930s, kept these obsolete rifles in active service; designated Dutch Mannlicher M.95, they were outgunned by the more modern German weapons as the invaders crossed into the country’s borders. During the war, Romanians, Yugoslavians, Italians, and other German-aligned forces used them in rear areas, while some M1895 rifles fell in the hands of anti-German partisan forces all cross Europe.”

They are not the same at all I can’t agree more with you about that. The fact is that Osttruppen on the atlantic wall were poorly armed, there was a lot of seized weapons in this unit, even if the majority had the k98, some foreign weapons were used to complete the blanks.
You would have been able to see also some PPSH-41 that were seized on the eastern front and bring back by the units in Normandy, you can see one that was found at thins time in a museum at Ouistreham.
Maybe there were also some straight pool M95 in small numbers between the hands of Osttruppen, who knows ? It was, as we say in France “un gros bordel”, a huge mess, especially for those osttruppen static divisions.

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I suspect WW2db is mistaken - there are numerous pictures on the web - they are 2 different looking weapons - notice different wood cover on top and under front barrel, different sights, different grip behind trigger - related, but different.

Dutch M.95:

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Yes they are totally different, built in the same year by the same builder, and both were found under german service I agree, the problem is that they are both called qui te same depending on the place, from time to time we can see just a M95 or Mannlicher 1895 or Dutch Mannlicher 1895, even Geweer M95., the problem is that the denomination Mannlicher 1895 can apply to them both, as they are both Mannlichers for 1895, even if it’s the austrian one that has this name “officialy”. As we don’t have seen the model that we will have in game we can’t really know wich one of the two they plane to had. Even in the collectors area they are often both mistaken.
From this two honestly I think it would really be more logical if it is the dutch one that is gonna be add in game, as a lot were found between the hands of the troops there.
But maybe the devs have mistaken this two fishing rods or maybe they just wanted to add a straight-pull that has nothing or little to do here just to offer a different gunplay

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Agree on this, some of those weapons shouldn’t even be in the game in the first place, much less in Normandy.

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If anything, some Russian weapons should be present, as the Atlantic Wall was also manned by Osttruppen.

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A quick round up of Ost troops in Normandy:

III/GR.857 (Ost.630) (in 346 Inf Div)

Ost.Btl.857 (711 Inf Div)

Ost.Btl.642 (716 Inf Div)

Ost.Btl.441 (716 Inf Div)

Ost.Art.752 (mix of 105mm hows, AA, and pioneers!? in 275 Inf Div)

I/Mittle (Ost) (275 Inf Div)

Georgian.Btl.798 (275 Inf Div)

Ost.Btl.439 (716 Inf Div, attached to 352 inf Div)

Ost.Btl.602 (77 Inf Div)

Wolga.Btl.627 (77 Inf Div)

Ost.Btty.582 (100mm how, in 77 Inf Div)

Ost.Btl.561 (243 Inf Div)

2/Georg.797 (company only, with 243 Inf Div)

3/Georg.795 (company only, with 243 Inf Div)

Ost.Btl.649 (709 inf Div)

Georgian.Btl.795 (less 3. Kp, 709 inf Div)

Georgian.Btl.797 (less 2. Kp, Korps asset)

Ost.Btl.281 (Korps asset)

Ost.Btl.635 (Korps asset)

Ost.Btl.Huber (Korps asset)

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no jam is there but ver rare

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Only a few weapons have it for sure, but it mostly happens when you reload with a clip rather than individual rounds.

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Yes i want this mechanism to be there more in low level soldiers

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FNAB-43 needs its damage buffed to 8

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For what reason? :rofl:

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So It can 2 shot kill

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It already can two shot kill.

Just remove vitality perk instead

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3 shots are needed to deal 15 damage.

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only if upgraded

indeed…

what he means, which he is correct in some sort of way, the Fnab often requires half mag just to kill 2 guys.

meaning that more ammonutions are required in order to kill someone.

something that the russian them selves didn’t had too much to think about it during the ww2.

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3 shots deal 17.1 damage. The health of a normal character is 10.

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well, the fnab it’s good in close quarter. but not in mid, unlike all the others smg…

well. i wouldn’t count the smg34. that one is an automatic nail gun…

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Two shots deal less damage than 15, needed to kill someone. Most enemies have 10 hp + additional 5 hp in DBNO state. We need a buff to hp so it does more than 15 to skip DBNO stage and insta kill

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But why the hell does ONE of ALL available SMGs have to suddenly 2-shot kill? All the other SMGs kill in 3 hits.

No it can consistently kill in 3 hits to upper torso and has a higher rate of fire than the MP despite having supposedly the same stats, on top of having a larger magazine.

1-2 headshots, or 3 torso shots, is perfectly acceptable. Asking for more damage is just wehrabooism tbh. All the other SMGs do 3 torso shot kills as well, but the USA SMGs can down after 2 torso shots, Soviet SMGs get higher rate of fire, while German SMGs get more controllability.

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on paper, yes, and reality, as well.

it’s just matter of experience with it.

the first time that i used that gun, i sprayed and prayed. because it’s me or them.

personally, i don’t find it useless as the mp34, but it’s not relayable in mid-long range. so in my book, a different weapon that requires different play style. which i like.
as gives different approaches and new equipment for the germans aside from the regulat weapons.

( if wasn’t clear )

agreed