Remove M72 shell, and provide M61 shell for USA BR2 tanks

No? I’m fine where it is and use it in every one of my BR3 america lineups.

I suppose i have an irrational hatred against this suggestion though… you made it half of your personality along with other grievances i have towards you that are irrelevant to this conversation.

To me you are like the kid in class constantly asking the teacher about when recess is going to happen.

Hidden in my like you said irrational disagreement towards this i have shown agreement in this in that it would make it on par with tanks such as PZ 3 M but i will reiterate my principle on long 75.

The community managers recently revealed that widespread report isn’t sufficient. Persistent support is required. For consistent support to be shown you need consistent posting.

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Which really means nothing when comparing u.s. shells to germany’s lol. Have you looked at stats? How do you think the “long” barrel (which by the way ain’t really long, it’s more of a medium length) makes it better or on par to germany’s short barrel.

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Maybe he was referring to the long reload? :joy:

This is true… i won’t even argue with this.

Barrel length has zero impact on HE shells, nor HEAT rounds. Only affects ap, aphe, apcr, and apcbc. There’s a lot of german tanks using heat in low tier on their short barrel tanks. They could literally have longer barrels and they would perform the same penning over 90mm. Germans low tier heat rounds also put out like 3x the explosive equivalent of u.s. apcbc rounds and they have roughly the same penn. Right now u.s. br 2 tanks have no at rounds with filler and do quite a bit less penn. (Other than m8 scott)

Also it’s a change that most people are initially against. So in order to change that you need to over time get people more on board. That requires multiple posts. If one of them takes off you need to ride the hype so it gets shared with as many people as possible. The entire Reddit and discord is on board with it now I just gotta convince people in the forum. But you can only repost after a month so I’m biding my time and making an infographic so people are forced to at least absorb some info

That’s because most people on forum are german lover boys

Otherwise, this is precisely the reality of the forums. Every day, there are people posting new requests or topics. New posts continuously appear, pushing older ones to the back unless someone pays attention to them. If no one keeps a thread active, it gradually sinks further and further down until it’s eventually forgotten. Often, these posts may end up being locked automatically over time, disappearing from view entirely. So when you criticize someone’s behavior as problematic, have you considered whether it might be the system itself that’s flawed? They keep posting repeatedly simply to ensure their suggestion thread stays visible and gains traction—like someone swimming upstream just to catch a breath, all to keep the post from dying out.

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It’s basically a better crusader now, so no

The m4a2 is a better m4a1 let’s nerf it guys ahh logic. And you can give crusader apcbc so it would have the advantages of more penetration along with a quicker reload.

Actually, the Crusader have stronger firepower, and I prefer Crusader.

no, they are pretty much equal now, so it’s not ‘nerfing’ anything. Also, I’m against this power creeping, as the only APCBC shot the crusader has has around 120 mm of penetration., which is just unfair to germany.

Germany also doesn’t have solid shot on anything so no idea what ur on about.

I see no problem with giving a tank that in game is meant to kill tanks a higher penning round that still does less dmg than any other nations

The loading of Crusaders is 30% faster than M24, which is a significant difference.
You take down the gunner of enemy tank. If you reload too slowly, other crew is fully capable of replacing the gunner’s position and retaliating.
The British 57mm gun has a higher penetration AP, capable of piercing through the 80mm hull armor of Panzer IV H, which the M24 cannot achieve. Meanwhile, the power of HE shell from 57mm gun is not much less than that of the 75mm HE, higher firing rate can definitely compensate for the slightly smaller explosive power.

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Is that so?
You’d have to pull up the stats, I was under the impression the were vastly diffrent.


Actually, they are very close
The biggest difference lies in the number of fragments, but there is a problem of diminishing marginal benefits in the number of fragments, so the difference between two shells is not that big, 222 fragments are enough to cover a radius of 17 meters.

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well damn

The chaffee is soo bad at anti tank guys.

Didnt even require skill! that was pure luck! Combined with accidental skill as i probably hit his ammo… what do you know!