Remove M4A3E2 Jumbo from Normandy

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ah but did you know that jumbo does strangle against angles even at point blank, so i would want the 4H to have track armor added to it

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At close range there is at least a chance to aim at a vulnerable spot. However, at 200-250 meters through the bushes it is impossible to kill the Jumbo. That’s just a fact. Unless you turn the viewing angle to the minimum, trying to see his machine gun through the bushes.
That’s impossible, anyone who says otherwise simply hasn’t tried it. I’m aware of all the vulnerabilities, but only last fight I stopped shooting at the Jumbo, because the distance was about 200 meters and we were partially separated by a bush. I see one red marker, good luck getting through.
Naturally Jumbo also had trouble penetrating, but the Pz turret is mostly penetrating, so he partially killed my crew.

Its the Tiger 2 Porsche since it was on the alpha of Berlin agains’t IS-2. What did you expect ? I’m not surprised anymore, even when we are supposed to have the “Tiger” they give to axis the worst Tiger shit that exists.

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you can always wiggle your turret but i would rather have the p4h added track armor on it so we can avoid power creep as much as possible

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Even when moving, the turret is a pretty big target. At long range it doesn’t make sense, because after stopping I need a lot more time to catch that machine gun pixel to penetrate the Jumbo than it does to shoot me in the turret.
It’s always a duel not with equal odds. I can win, but I have to either be much more experienced than my opponent, or try three times as hard as he is.

if you want an equal fight then i’m sorry that won’t happen since the devs said that aren’t removing jumbo iirc

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I’m waiting for my panther to respond to those who think that jumbo is now quite easy to kill, exactly in their own words.

aaah you truly want your side to win and not a fair fight

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It reminds me of the 2019 movie “Platform”.
-Why won’t those at the top listen?
-Because they are at the top.
I want those who so vehemently prove the lies and defend their advantage (while simultaneously creating topics about mg, fg and the like) to understand what it’s like.
Of course I want fair play, but no one else wants that until they themselves are confronted.

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except i’m not an allied main and i eat jumbos for breakfast…in the 3n, but if you truly wanted a fair fight why would you want panther which can lolpen everything and no take any damage in return

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You are exaggerating. Stand 150-200 meters away on the range and film from the beginning how you aim and shoot the jumbo. My practice there shows that the 3n even in a machine gun nest at point-blank range hits 1 out of 3.
Panther I want because it is an iconic tank and I’m tired of the 5 minute tank duels, which usually end with the fact that the plane throws a bomb or infantryman blast pack.
Tanks should better pierce each other, such duels for me are unbearable.

then why the fuck do you want panther outside of berlin, yes berlin has panther and will have KTs, because panther will be able to lol pen everything while being untouchable it will be like how jumbo is but in reverse and not have a shitty solid shot round…which brings me back to why i said this in the first place

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Obviously the Americans will also get a tank against the panther.
In general tanks of different levels already badly penetrate each other, and panther will not penetrate jumbo in silhouette (I played hundreds of hours on it in WT, and jumbo is always unpleasant, especially at a distance)

Jumbo PZ4 matchup feels 60/40 % Jumbo wins more but shooting pz4 back is still deadly. Pz4 needs 1 pen and its over, Jumbo needs 3/4 shots to pen for a kill.

You make it seem like the Jumbo is some titan. Seems to me that you only fight againt it and not with it. If you do you would notice the flaws in it.

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Well jumbo is a Titan now in game, especially at the map with hills and inclines. They hull down and clean up all the infantrys and Panzers, But panzers can do nothing to it.

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i agree.

lost countless tenis batles against pz4’s inside the jumbo

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my issue isn’t the tanks added it’s the effect that will send since they go off years then it means that both KTs and pershings will be fair game for normandy which is called POWER CREEP

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I never once killed a jumbo in one shot with a panzer. Thanks to the bad hitbox, it is very hard to kill from the front while the jumbo has no issues killing any german tank. The fact that some player sometimes get an unlucky pixel pen which leads to the ammo exploding does not mean the Jumbo is remotely balanced.

Jumbo needs to go.

Two reasons: It never fought in Normandy. It is extremely dumb to have fantasy tanks in a theater they never participated in. What is next? Panzer IV G and H in the Moscow campaign? Tigers maybe?

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Says the guy who literally leaves every match I have seen you in, 7 in total, when you start with Infranty squad I suppose and then you get killed quite fast but low kill ration. Then, because ego player as we already know you are, you leave the match. Invasion only.

So to be honest, your opinion is meaningless in my opinion.

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