Realistic mode

It should be
No zoom
No killcam
No tracer bullet
No hitmarker, also no voiceline when hit a enemy
Slower reloading
Historical weaponry, vehicle
More basic AT guns in map
Higher damage for smg, carbines, pistols

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Game is in identitiy crisis
They try to appeal to both polar opposite sides (hardcore realism players vs hardcore arcade players)
You cant dolphin jump but lean like rainbow six
Recoil and weight near to non exist but try to balance with unrealistic dispersion and comical damage rates
marketing ai squads as core selling point yet donwgrade them to appeal newbies etc … list goes on

Blending two different styles is a hard thing to do ,
doesnt end up good for most games .
Ends up with ugly frankenstein monster.
And they are doint it on dagor engine, didnt designed for infantry gameplay.

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I would love a realistic mode eventually

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Maybe except this:

The combat distance is already quite short, any shorter distance will be more unrealistic. Without optics, people in game have worse eye sight compare to in real life because limitation of screen resolution and screen size, but it is also not realistic to gice optics to WWII soldiers except snipers.

Solution: Increase recoil when zoom, which discourage use of full auto when engage target at long distance except for machine guns with bipods or stationary ones. Fire selector must be used more frequently on automatic rifles.

But the zoom is really ridiculous now;;
This make binocular useless

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Also, bad sight can not only enforce user to forward to objective but also a great benefit to mg user.
Then their mid-long range continuous firing
abitilty will do its own job, not like present heavy-assult rifle position.

I disagree with this one. Weapon jamming would be annoying if the game does not have a feature to reduce the chance of weapon jamming. If by upgrading your weapon the chance of jamming is reduced, it still decrease the player control as jamming is still random. This will lead to “Oh, bullshit!” situations where a player killed you not because they’re better but because your gun jammed.

Also to piggyback off of your suggestion, the “Realistic Mode” should disable the aim lead indicator and armor penetration indicator.

Except point number 5, I agree with the rest. I think there is a substantial amount of players wanting a match with slower pace and bigger battle area.

Tanks getting destroyed easily is not immersion breaking.
If you use tanks and armored vehicles like mpunted cavalry this is the natural result.
Tanks engaging combat at 50 meter or closer is immersion breaking.
Average engagement distance of ww2 was between 500 meter and 1 kilometer for tank - tank combat.
During polish campaign, germans lost more than 600 armored vehicles eventougg they had air, manpower and fire power superiority on every level

I mean, polish tanketts are quite strong
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Not really… it’s very clear they dismissed realism in favour of arcade.

Hopefully we get realistic mode in the future…

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From what I know AI is stupid by design.

So leave stupid AI for arcade if they really want and give me good (but not too good) AI for my mode.

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Jams by “mine” desing (it was more like brainstorm) would work more or less like:

  • 1st type: longer reload, 100% RNG based
  • 2n type: actual jam during firing, more you fire = chance of jam increases, you can “counter” jams with trigger discipline

You can read more by folowing the attached link.

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With EPacks nerfed, to destroy a tank you woud have to:

  • use dedicated AT weaponery that is limited to certain squads/clases
  • use TNT that requires you to basically hug a tank and makes it easy to get killed by enemy infantry supporting the tank

My problem with EPs is that they are powerfull, spamable, have decent range. They basically have no weakness.
The closest thing to EP is panzerfaust. But if your guy with PzF dies, you probably don’t have next one. If a dude with EP dies, it’s not a problem, just sent 5 dudes more.

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Side note:
The goal of such mode is not to make the game less action packed but to make the action slower.
So you will still fight a lot but those fights will be slower.

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This is needed otherwise This discussion feels incomplete

“WaLkInG SiMuLaToR!!11!1!!!”

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Thank you for your duty.
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Always vigilant. Always on guard.

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thank you, there was too much consensus on the topic, it was necessary to intervene

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So james just answered my question wheather we gonna have realism mode of some kind or not and my day was somehow ruined.

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Sad but not surprising.

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at this point i just wish they would at least tune custom games so we could implement something like this ourselves…

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