Wait,isn’t SMG with flamethrower too OP, you might ask?
Its not because you won’t be able to take big ammo pouch due to the fuel tank.
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Hahaha, I’d say this pre-order squad looks like two options, but there’s really only one worth getting. Just look at Germany’s flamethrower squad.
They even remade the helmet model—it’s a really cool helmet. And the Suomi is just as strong as ever. The key point is it’s BR4, unlike the old Suomi premium squad. The flamethrower is basically just a bonus.
I’m sure when this comes out, Germany’s gonna be completely winning. This squad has insane potential.
Now look at the Soviet side: a basic BR1 rifle plus a flamethrower with terrible range.
In my opinion, the only logical place for this Soviet flamethrower squad is Moscow—before BR lineups were merged, no matter the BR.
The problem is, right now, flamethrowers just aren’t strong. The mechanic got butchered so hard it’s basically garbage.
Compared to other online games, if you want this to sell, at least make it good and fun to use. Buff the mechanic back a little so the squad actually feels strong.
I’m even anxious for DF. The updates are so slow, and that’s probably why they’re not making much money.
When you strip this pre-order pack down, the real star is obvious:
the BR4 Suomi SMG.
Once the packs go live, the Soviet Mosin-Nagant flamethrower is gonna be totally underwhelming and end up forgotten.
Come on—Italy already has a BR2 flamethrower paratrooper squad!
I just don’t get why the good stuff always goes to the other side in every pre-order.
So I’m gonna wait until this pre-order ends, then wait another six months for a sale, and only buy the German flamethrower squad.
It looks way cooler. So much cooler 
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OMG, this is great! Awesome news! It’s even stronger now.
But have you considered putting the Mosin-Nagant flamethrower itself at BR2?
I think Soviet players would actually pay for that.
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The base flamethrower in tt is br 3
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For clarity:
This new premium squad (the Suomi) is not BR 4.
In this pre-order BRs are (as of the time of writing):
Mosin M91 with flamethrower (Premium, BR III)
Extra gun: AVT-40 20 (Normal, BR V)
Hence, squad arrives at BR V initially when you purchase it, but can remove the AVT should you please to make it a BR III or IV squad (depending on the extra weapon you attach).
Suomi KP/-31 with flamethrower (Premium, BR V)
Extra gun: FG 42 (Normal, BR V)
Hence, squad arrives at BR V initially when you purchase it, but can remove the FG 42 if you please. The squad stays at BR V.
The “Tier” of the Suomi squad is in fact 4, and this is what is stated on the store page. Store pages quote Tier, and not BR, and has done so for all previous premium squads. Tier is different to BR.
UPDATE:
The squad is now in Tier V. This has been reflected in the store page, and is also made clear in the store description next to the name of the squad. So, now it’s both Tier V and BR V.
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Ok cool! Does the mosin have same stats as a br 4 or br 3 flamethrower? Same with kp-31
I don’t understand why like the other Suomi squad it is not Finnish, anyway, interesting squads over all
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It is BR V, not IV. Same as the Suomi KP/-31.
The “4” in the Gaijin store that might confuse people at first glance is the Tier (you can even see the Tier in the filter there), which matters only for Research. BR was never shown in the store as BR can be changed because balancing reasons, while the Tier is fixed.
EDIT: So there was actually an error in the store, the squad was marked as Tier 4 instead of Tier 5 … so it’s Tier 5 and planned to be BR V.
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Since this pre-order pack is all about flamethrower squads, why not buff their stats or mechanics to make them sell better?
Can you make the flamethrower’s fire burn grass and trees?
Can you roll back the flame width and mobility to how they were before that October 2023 update? It’s been so long—you know how bad flamethrowers are now.
Flamethrower guys can’t see anyone when they’re firing, but anyone hit by fire can just shoot back and kill them instantly. It’s a 1-for-1 trade death loop every time.
When you want to sell this stuff for good money, do you ever think about whether anyone actually uses flamethrowers?
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My heart had a little emergency when I read “AVT40 BR3” for a second - good that you clarified.
So this is where all the effort went? You wasted all your time making these unique premium squads while tech trees get warthunder copy paste and old gun with new mag. Also the potrait seems so random and doesn’t have anything to do with the squads. I guess it is some unused event reward that got recycled.
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@MajorMcDonalds I’ll buy this premium if you can tell me with certainty that M&K support for consoles is this year.
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It seems the developers have taken player feedback to heart this time, addressing all aspects of WWII history, game balance, and monetization options. These two advanced squads have brought everyone back to 1943, the Battle of Stalingrad, in WWII history. Indeed, everyone is very satisfied with this update, and hopefully the developers will continue to do so in the future. Enlisted’s resurgence is just around the corner.
Yeah… Chindits have nothing to do with anything else within the update either…
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You mean liekinheitin m/44? “Liekkinetin” would mean flame internet
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Yes, it can and does confuse people. If you look at the store, every single squad available has a matching Tier to their BR in the game - except this one new bundle that has come out today. Can you post the guns’ stats here (because apparently the devs don’t want to list them on the pre-order page or anywhere else until the guns are released) so we can look at their stats and BRs and put this issue to rest?
And PLEASE ask the devs to put relevant information on the store page.
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yea cool premium but i’ll wait for end of year sale or whenever it on sale that is.
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Got it! Ready to set players on fire! Always like the flamer squads, Especially the USA premium with the big round tank on back. Something so special about setting people on fire 
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Million dollar opportunity to make this Suomi-squad (and the other) represent finnish volunteers in german army, aka Finnisches Freiwilligen-Bataillon
Although there are some problemSS though…
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