So the only reason it should be br 3 is because you want it? Usually when making suggestions you should tell some better reasons other than that
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The soviets got more aggressive smg’s with higher rof and overall the have some of the best in low/med BR, but all in all they seem to be good balanced.
When the PPS-42/43 would go to BRIII I totally would support the rant from the allied mains.
I’m going to straight up say no, they’re fine where they’re at. Unless you’re willing to provide an alternative weapon. That would leave them with a single SMG until BR III. This is a conversation that’s come up numerous times and it’s been shot down every time so it’s never going to happen. As stated above, DF wants to take the easier route out with the least amount of work but I can’t blame them considering they have a small studio size and their people keep getting taken to work on war thunder.
The most I can agree with is giving slightly more recoil, slightly lowering the pps-42 to a ROF of 500 (down from 600) and the PPS-43 to 550 (from 700).
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PPS-42 gets a rof and magazine size boost over mp40 while not getting any cons of pps-43, it’s just superior gun at BR2. It also weights just 3kg, and has a higher velocity.
But it’s still nowhere as overpowered as PPSh-41 box that’s where you have insane Soviet bias and you literally play with a BR5 weapon at BR3.
Look at disperson and rof of PPSh-41 box it’s even better than BR5 Axis smgs. It’s just ridicolous. And PPS-42 is still stronger than garbage smgs like MP 35/I and Beretta M38/42.
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The problem is, if you put the PPS42 or PPS43 in level 3 it is still going to show up in level 1-3 matches, as well as possible level 5 matches where it is really no match against BR5 weapons.
Really in my estimation after playing Germans, Russians and Allies, I don’t think the PPS 42/43 are a huge advantage. To me it is very similar to the US UD42. Very low recoil, laser accurate but low hitting power to boot. For that reason, I choose to use the M3A1 Grease gun along with my 2 squads of Thompson’s. The Thompson has a much higher recoil, but along with the Grease gun hits harder at 8.2 vs 6.8. Sure, the Grease gun is much slower, but it kills faster with less bullets. I don’t even use my squad of UD42 much because of this. I personally like the German Beretta M1. Small hitting power like the PPS, but 40 round mag vs the 35 round the PPG has. It is all trade offs in guns. I prefer hitting power to ROF as you have to hit the enemy less, otherwise I would never field a grease gun. . 
Everyone has their favorites though.
Again this stupid complain nobody cares about your crying about mgs since all mgs at low br are crap and inferior to smgs, they are never worth it i would gladly take your PPS-42 and body armor over garbage and inaccurate MG13. Also stop acting like we only have horrible literal satan Madsen MGs because it’s a lie:
I have a lot of Bredas from Stalingrad campaign. Beretta M1 is inferior in every single way when compared to PPS-42 except the mag size but 5 bullets won’t save you if your enemy has much higher rof and better recoil
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As soon as they start working in the direction of balance, Even though it’s not perfect people start crying and complaining that something needs to be nerfed it’s overpowered it’s placed too low in the tree. If the devs want it there they’re going to put it there and they won’t change it. Rarely will they ever move something up the tree it’s mostly been down. They would rather Nerf a weapon slightly than move it up a battle rating if they can do so. This is a topic that’s happened too many times, And it’s been going on for years over these exact weapons. This spans pre-merge… This isn’t me taking any one faction side as I play all of them. This is looking at the overall health of the game, if those get moved up something must replace them. Otherwise they’re left with one SMG for 3 tiers. None of the other weapons will compare, so that’s just asking the developers " let us steamroll our enemy harder because we want to see how fast we can do it" it has nothing to do with balance.
Well then, I guess it comes down to the person clicking the mouse because I kill just as many using the Berretta M1 as I do with the PPS. BTW, the Germans also have the Beretta 1918 that shoots much faster and has low recoil that I also use. It shoots so fast the enemy is dead the moment I click the mouse, so again, I don’t see any huge advantages for any faction at the lower levels. Just my opinion, I know you disagree, so we can agree to disagree. 
NTM that the Breda Mod 30 is FAR Superior to the Madsen, or the Bren the Allies use. Everything is a trade off.
You could do much better with PPS-42 and kill more time than with your Beretta M1. It’s a fact.
And nobody uses Berreta M1918 or OVP because their sights are attrocious:
PPS-42 don’t have that issue it has a perfect balance between dmg, rof, good sights, mag size + reload speed, accuracy and movement speed. There are not a single smg at BR2 that is better than that.
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That was the whole point of the Soviets They were weak and every other area, take their SMG and assaulter weapons and they have nothing. I say that because the IS-2 is extremely easy to counter, it’s slow and has an awful reload time. The IS-1 is not much better, The rest of their tanks are mediocre compared to Allied and German tanks. And their air superiority is horrible to begin with, realistically during the war planes were the weakest aspect for them.
Each faction excels in one area, assalter weaponry was the whole point of the Soviet faction. Just like tanks were the Germans, planes were the Japanese, And the Americans got a blend of planes and tanks.
Doesn’t it have great reverse speed though?
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Yes, the sites are bad, but it is still just as effective and has an insane ROF for having such a low recoil. So, you don’t have to be accurate, just spray and pray… at least till the clip runs dry. I have one squad of these I use these along with my M1’s. The only draw back is the sites and the mag size.
The ingame stats are mostly wrong though.
Allied Tanks are far worse.
None of them excluding the 90mm cannon can OHK most German tanks (not counting ammo) and also have about same pen iirc. Their armor also is not that great.
Only their MGs are better.
The Jumbo only works if their is no Panther or Tiger around and almost all BRV tanks are at least BRIV material.
T-34-85 is probably best medium tank in the game and maybe even best Soviet tank if IS2 is too slow for people.
Japanese planes are mediocre to horrible.
KT is extremely easy to counter since you have our Panzerfaust 100 and a one or two hits from that thing or 1hk shell from your IS-2 or way more mobile T-34-100 will destroy it. Soviets have superior smgs, rifles, ARs and mgs. Your paratroopers are the best in the game. There is nothing left for the Axis except few planes that are 10% better wow we are totally the best nation all right? Your La-7 and I-185 are pretty good and only suffer in top speed which you don’t really need unless you want to run away like a coward. So you are only weak in planes while every single thing is better or equal to the Axis.
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Imagine.
Commieboo creates a sarcastic post to make fun of wheraboos whining about Soviets & the strange advantageS they have
Devs actually listen to him and switch both pps to br 3.
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this is not sarcasm. I really want this.
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Of course!
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Why do you think he was being sarcastic?
… because his very next post is making fun of a wheraboo?
This thread is a Commieboo vs Wheraboo battle 