PPS 43 and PPS 42 to BR3

Njet!

It’s the only smg available in BR2.
Nothing else is available but BA and MG when you remove PPS from BR2.
Not even semi auto.
You cant have BR 1+2 have no smg at all.

Plus, the PPS rate of fire is nice but the damage is rather low.
So imho it’s fine in BR2, just like the MP40 for Germany or USA M3A1, for example.

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8y4r8s

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What to do with the bulletproof vest? It makes the MP40 weak.

I Agree but the german need to remove mp40,mp38, and FNAB43 from br 2.

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Why this? It has so slow firerate that it is almost useless in br 3

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because i want it and make suggestion xD

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Pps42 and 43 should have been moved up to BR3 right after merge when Mp40 and Lanchester were BR3.
USSR could have just got some lend-leased guns, but Darkflow will always go for the cheapest option requiring the least work.

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I like these low-level but excellent guns
Each camp has its own unique advantages among the same class.

Then give me Germans better smgs at BR2 and BR3 right now we only have mediocre and inferior smgs to the PPS-42/43 and especially PPSh-41 box. And at same time buff them since it’s dispersion is increased by 3-4x times for no reason (Kiraly vs PPSh-41)

Why is it important?

I use the PPS-42 all the time in the 1-3 levels, and although it shoots smooth and fast with low recoil, it also has low hitting power. The allies have the UD42 which is also a nice smooth fast shooting low recoil smg, but it suffers from low hitting power as well. I have just as much luck with the German Beretta M1 then the PPS-42. It doesn’t shoot as fast but has a 40 round mag. To be honest, I think all the smg’s have the same hitting power at that level. If you put them in level 3 they are just going to show up in level 1-3 matches anyway, or if your using one you might end up stuck in a level 5 match. In that case you are badly outgunned.

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Russian smgs are lasers even tho they have higher rof, while German smgs are highly inaccurate or miss from time to time if you keep shooting. It’s a very bad for balance of the game, people that like testing guns will instantly see that Soviet smgs are superior and would want to play as Soviets since their guns won’t miss as often.

I’m afraid to upset you, but it’s not true. The numbers you see don’t account for the accuracy of the weapon. More precisely, not only them.

PPS-42/43 to BRIII will be mad because there is nothing between BRI and III. The guns are good, but not OP.
The soviets dont have a semi auto on BRII and the Madsen is crap so this seems fair enough that they have good smgs.

I mainly play axis BRII and never had problems when a mad Ivan showed up with his PPS.

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The Madsen sucks. :face_with_raised_eyebrow: :blush: I would take the German Mod 30 machine gun any day over the Madsen, or any of the Allied level 1-2 machine guns. :wink:

Since I have played a lot with the Allies, Germans and Soviets between levels 1-3, I personally don’t think any faction has much of an advantage in SMG’s. I like the PPS 42, the US UD42 and the German Beretta M1. They all lack in hitting power at I believe 6.8 fully maxed. If I had to fight and only choose one? I would probably choose the Beretta M1. The recoil is not bad and it comes with a 40 round mag. For Allies I use one level 2 Thompson premium squad, one squad with 4 BP Thompson 1929 and my other squads use M3A1 Grease guns. The Thompson’s have more recoil then the German or Russian guns and don’t have huge mags, but along with the M3A1 Grease guns, they have more hitting power at 8.2. I really don’t even use my US UD 42 much as I have to shoot the piss out of people to kill them, so I go grease gun. It also seems like I have to shoot the piss out of the enemy to kill them with my PPS 42. I choose the 42 over the 43 because it has less recoil.

My two cents worth anyway. :innocent:

So the only reason it should be br 3 is because you want it? Usually when making suggestions you should tell some better reasons other than that

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The soviets got more aggressive smg’s with higher rof and overall the have some of the best in low/med BR, but all in all they seem to be good balanced.
When the PPS-42/43 would go to BRIII I totally would support the rant from the allied mains.

I’m going to straight up say no, they’re fine where they’re at. Unless you’re willing to provide an alternative weapon. That would leave them with a single SMG until BR III. This is a conversation that’s come up numerous times and it’s been shot down every time so it’s never going to happen. As stated above, DF wants to take the easier route out with the least amount of work but I can’t blame them considering they have a small studio size and their people keep getting taken to work on war thunder.

The most I can agree with is giving slightly more recoil, slightly lowering the pps-42 to a ROF of 500 (down from 600) and the PPS-43 to 550 (from 700).

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PPS-42 gets a rof and magazine size boost over mp40 while not getting any cons of pps-43, it’s just superior gun at BR2. It also weights just 3kg, and has a higher velocity.

But it’s still nowhere as overpowered as PPSh-41 box that’s where you have insane Soviet bias and you literally play with a BR5 weapon at BR3.


Look at disperson and rof of PPSh-41 box it’s even better than BR5 Axis smgs. It’s just ridicolous. And PPS-42 is still stronger than garbage smgs like MP 35/I and Beretta M38/42.

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The problem is, if you put the PPS42 or PPS43 in level 3 it is still going to show up in level 1-3 matches, as well as possible level 5 matches where it is really no match against BR5 weapons.

Really in my estimation after playing Germans, Russians and Allies, I don’t think the PPS 42/43 are a huge advantage. To me it is very similar to the US UD42. Very low recoil, laser accurate but low hitting power to boot. For that reason, I choose to use the M3A1 Grease gun along with my 2 squads of Thompson’s. The Thompson has a much higher recoil, but along with the Grease gun hits harder at 8.2 vs 6.8. Sure, the Grease gun is much slower, but it kills faster with less bullets. I don’t even use my squad of UD42 much because of this. I personally like the German Beretta M1. Small hitting power like the PPS, but 40 round mag vs the 35 round the PPG has. It is all trade offs in guns. I prefer hitting power to ROF as you have to hit the enemy less, otherwise I would never field a grease gun. . :rofl: Everyone has their favorites though.