Possible solution for automatic rifles problem (2 different player bases)

But dude, the game is literally advertised as being historically accurate and whatnot… All the way down to the little details as the store page says. It’s what the majority of us CBT players bought into the game early for and it’s why many of them are still supporting it now. It’s not like we’re trying to change the game into something it wasn’t supposed to be. If anything, we’re trying to keep the game on track for what it was promised and promoted to be.

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it still is!!! u cant except to be 100 percent if it was historically accurate u would loose 100 percent of the time like what happened in history so maybe not to accurate dude quit cherry picking miner things just have fun!!! don’t limit your options if u don’t want them don’t use them dont that simple. but u don’t decide what i take into battle

But that’s not what historical accuracy means in these types of games. In these games, the historical accuracy people want deals with the environments, the weapons and loadouts, and vehicles. No one is claiming that they want it to be historically accurate in the way that the battle is won. Of course, for a game like this, it’s about players fighting in these battles and both sides trying to win. People just want these battles to have historically accurate equipment and vehicles so that they can be fully immersed in the battle and have a great WW2 game.

Also, when you’re referring to us losing “100% of the time”, what are you referring to here exactly?? Are you talking about the German faction or saying that all battles in the war were lost?? Your wording is confusing.

Edit: Also srry for the delayed reply. For some reason the forum shit itself for me when I was trying to reply earlier.

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And you don’t get to decide what someone else does and does not liked, nor what they can say about it.

No one wants “100% accuracy” - because the only way to do that is to time travel back to 1944 and enlist… everything other than that has compromised accuracy. But there are many things that are needless inaccuracy - they are not necessary to the game and indeed make it worse in the opinion of many people.

So if you don’t like them saying so then don’t read those posts - it is that simple.

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its not that i care what you say or what your opinion is. i care about that you cant have 100 percent historically accurate and have a super fun game ur gunna have to fudge a little to balance every thing out its really that simple. and i dont wanna divide half the community with nonsense and the bias with the germans they dont die when i shoot them with m1 grand how is that fair German smg act like machine gun shooting medium range when they shouldn’t… they shouldn’t be spamming planes, tanks as they were out numbered greatly they didnt have grey area protection from flanking either like in enlisted
then the germans love spawn camping for free kills but all i kno is if they cater to you now i will ask for my money back for my interests are not being considered and i will leave this game in the dust and let u have your bolt and Nazi lover simulator

Huh?

basically they lost the war. but the point is you dont get 100 percent and to claim its not accurate for literally like 3 guns outta place and so many are freaking out and going to leave cause its not accurate duh its not accurate it cant be if u want it to be fun removing the m2 fg42 doesn’t solve anything or limiting them to assaulter i paid money so my troopers are not quite useles there not hard to counter and why would i put a level 1 sniper on my leveled up squad thats like going backwards my last point is when we kno its not totally accurate u then dont get to cherry pick this is wrong but all these others are ok when we knew it wasn’t totally accurate you cant have your cake and eat it too

But I’m not arguing for accuracy only on the German side. I think you got me wrong here I’m not some Wehraboo or some shit like that. Whenever IM talking about historical accuracy, I’m talking about it all across the board. For the Russians, Brits, Americans, and Germans as well. Hell, I don’t even play the Germans at all. I stick only with the allies and basically stick to just Moscow with a bit of Normandy in there.

So I’m not advocating for German bias or for Germans to always be winning. What I want and what I’m sure many others want as well is a historically accurate WW2 game that’s fun. Which is what Enlisted has potential to be once it actually sorts everything out. And one thing that the game needs to sort out is it’s problem with all these auto rifles. Which is what can be done by restricting these certain guns to certain classes(or by restricting the amounts of them you can bring in).

And the game most definitely can be fun with these types of weapon restrictions in place. There are plenty of other games that do have restrictions like these and they’re still fun. Like RO2 and RS2 for example. It also does do something as it’ll stop literally everyone from just running these auto rifles on every soldier they can. Thus stopping the game turning into an auto rifle meta hell like its starting to become. Youre just getting mad bc you want to slap an auto rifle wherever you want which is just ridiculous. It’s also your fault for paying money to a game which is in beta and subject to change 🤷 it sucks but things can change at any moment and that means weapon metas too.

Also I don’t mean to be a dick or anything, but pls punctuate your sentences… that run on sentence was a bit painful to read…

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how is it ridiculous. that i leveled all the way to those weapons why should i now be limited cause it suit your fancy. and then punish me by taking or limiting those guns. that i paid for which will make them useless again i like what i like and i want auto cause im done playing bolts actions simulator I’m tired of trying to take a bunker with a bolt action its not fun and to limit trooper there almost useless take the m2 away from them they are totally use less u need to learn how to deal with them there not hard to counter

Okay well 1.) It’s ridiculous bc this is SUPPOSED to be a historically accurate and realistic WW2 game. So this shouldn’t even be an option in the first place.

And 2.) If these things are so easy to counter, then why are you complaining? If they’re so easy to counter then you should be on board with this kind of decision. Since it’s not singling you out and putting only you at a disadvantage. But everyone else as well. It’s leveling the playing field while also making it more historically accurate.

I get that you grinded for these weapons and whatnot, but you can still use them. Just not to the capacity that you could before if this type of change were to happen. Also, why not at the very least just use semi autos? That’d leave you with what, one or two auto guns per squad, and a handful of semi autos and bolt actions? Where you’d have a majority of semi autos and auto weapons? That doesn’t sound crippling at all. Especially when you consider that everyone else would be restricted in the same exact way.

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im not whinning you are i see many people crying to limit guns limit them to classes
they nerfed semis so its 3 shots from a grand to kill a german i watch them round after round shrug off a .30 cal bullet to the chest and not die so screw semis
but restricting game play to sniper sim is not fun i dont want a bolt action on my best squad its level 1 gear when im level 30 its that simple its going backwards
and yes it a disadvantage cause i like full atuo limiting me to bolts is a disadvantage for me and people like me dont limit the game play learn the mechanics everything has a counter everything well almost everything except planes

Well yes, we’re voicing what we think is better for a game that’s literally promoting itself as a historically accurate WW2 shooter. And it’s something that would also fix balance as well since it’d limit EVERYONE and not allow full auto abuse/spam.

And yes, it is a disadvantage but an equally distributed disadvantage. You wouldn’t be restricted to purely bolt actions either. Since like I said, you’d be able to equip semi-auto rifles, so stop complaining about bolt actions. And what are you on about semi-autos being weak?? I literally use the M1 Garand all the time and that thing still destroys. I literally one-tap people, sometimes two-tap em if they’re premium and need an extra shot to take down. Are you sure it’s just not your skill here that’s the issue? Bc from the sounds of it, you just want to have the thing that you personally don’t suck with.

All I can say is get good man. Bc I use basically purely semi-autos and bolt actions(bolt actions for the moscow campaign) with only like one or two SMG’s here and there. With my SMGs only being on like one or two squads and only on one or two soldiers in those squads. And I can consistently get towards the top of the leaderboard basically just using semi-autos and bolt actions. So idk man sounds like it’s just a skill issue here for you. Bc I can say with certainty, that semi-autos and bolt actions DO NOT suck at all.

no it not equally distributed disadvantage it favors the german only and quit complaining the americans used fullatuo and semis so whats not accurate about that. germans always abuse every thing tanks planes when they shouldn’t be able to like history .the m1 grand still destroys are u stoned and and point blank its so bad now it take 3 shot at range when the German gewher 1 shots every thing but the m1 grand is bad i refuse to use it now
and German main always complain about skill but there a bunch of whinny babies who cant contented with fullatuos and they say limit them its not fair and i need to get good ok man. its only historically acuurate if they get the stuff they used anyone else cant have theres gear. thats game breaking and unfair that sums up german mains

Dude wtf are you on about?!?!?! :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy:

Holy shit I had to get that out. I am not a German main dude :joy: :joy: :joy: I’ve clearly stated that in my previous responses. I don’t want historically accurate balance just for the Americans. I want it for the Germans as well man. Can’t you read??

ur bias is what im saying
dont limit our stuff cause you suck not me im not crying to limit guns like a baby

And also yes, while I mostly am stoned when playing games bc that’s how I love to play games to feel more immersed. I am not mistaken when it comes to the power of the Garand. That thin still fuckin destroys and literally one taps. You really just need to learn how to shoot and how to use these weapons. And oh I’m not worried about taking on folks with Full autos. Bc I can do that just fine.
I just don’t want to see this bs full auto abuse where you’re slapping full autos onto everyone of your squad mates. Whether if you’re on the German side, American, Russian, or in the future on the brits side.

i can read and u said nothing about the germans only the allies
dont limit our stuff quit bitching get good and learn how to play the game

Bruh, I never said it was bc I couldn’t kill. Bc I can as I previously stated while using ONLY semi-autos and bolt actions. So I can handle myself just fine. I’m literally only claiming this bc I want this game to be more historically accurate like the devs are promoting it to be.

Bruh… go up and read :man_facepalming: