another medium tank to give the german struggles? no thanks.
plus, they didn’t even saw normandy in the firstplace, as those were outdated since 1943.
what i struggle to understand, is that you struggle to come up with such bad ideas. end tier tanks should be better than earlier tanks. but different.
on moscow, tanks are somewhat balance between each other. because each one can be penetrated even by starter tanks ( let alone bugged armor models ).
as such, by your logic, tigers oor panthers should be introduced. which i’ll repeat. it’s not a solution.
if you are desperate to find a replacement for the jumbo, there could be other shermans variants, or even different tanks from the shermans. an example is the m18. sure, it has one of the best weapons, but it barely have armor.
“The first 128 Jumbos arrived in France via Cherbourg on the 22nd September 1944.”
“On the 18th October, Normandy beach depots recorded having seventeen on hand, twenty four released to Armies and nineteen on route to Third Army. By the 24th October Army allocations for delivery had been confirmed as:
First Army – 105 M4A3E2 Jumbos
Third Army – 90 M4A3E2 Jumbos
Ninth Army – 60 M4A3E2 Jumbos”
Dont believe the anti-jumbo propganda. Just because people parot on the forums
The truth about this game is that if you’re not playing the german faction you’re in for alot of pain and bother and the devs don’t give a fuck, op planes, op tanks, op guns I’m on a 6 lose streak or something on Normandy allies even tho I kill like 80, 90 every match just can’t win because most normal players cant find success using the current trash gear allies have in normandy thank god I’m about to finish this fucking campaign so I can go do something else because playing allies rn is just torture.
so, jumbo were not present for the campaign of normandy. to the very least, the first combats for the beaches.
as far as i know in enlisted, Cherbourg is not present. the far we go, is just a few miles behind beaches. as such, it’s not justified to break the overhal balance for a tank that di not saw combat at all there. august-september.
Wait, so thats how the JU 188 sometimes kills aircraft? It’s been confusing me all week since sometimes after I drop bombs a p-38 or something just drops dead. I’d been thinking they were suicide bombing near where I was dropping bombs so the kill got attributed to me.
Right they where battle of Bulge, is when they’d be see. TBH for it being Normandy they’d have to cut out half the weapon as most that shit wasn’t seen
FG42/MG08/MG38/MG42 vs M1918A2/M1919A4/Browning M2
Kar98 vs Springfield A4
MP 40/MP 44 vs M3A1/Thomposon 30 round & Drum
M1 Carbine/M1 Carbine Para
Getting info on the T17/T18 conversion kit dates is hard but they would in for Bulge
Honestly that would prob make Normandy more gun balanced. A big issue with normandy is so many guns where not use in it. Those where the guns used in Normandy and documented, anything else would be pure fantasy.
Tanks used in Normandy
USA: Greycat / M3 Stuart / M4A3 Pre Jumbo/ M10/ M18
GE: Puma/ Panther G / P4E / P4J / Tiger 1 / King Tiger 2
I guess for balance
M5 medium armoured car vs Puma (Both can go 90KPH, and run the same cannon type.)
M4A3 105 vs Panther 4E (seems they where aiming these to be the support tank role, with more of a howitzer cannon)
M4A3(75)WHVSS vs P4J (Not a fair fight, WHVSS makes it more stable while moving, some reason we’re using the version of the M4A3 in D-Day that wasn’t used.
M4A3(76)Easy Eight vs PG or P4J Heck give germans the Tigers, with how heavy tanks work in this game they’d just be loot boxes for anyone in an M5/PUMA… I wouldn’t mind getting access to WHVSS to shoot on the move or the Easy eight which ALSO had WHVSS to kill tanks in the front with ease, instead of doing the tank dance with the slow ass Jumbo which is kill bait.
People have been pointing out though the game fills matches with bots. Which IMO is just been making multiple campaigns a really dumb idea thinking about it right now as RU/GE has 2 campaigns to split them apart. It would be easier to balance like H&G is just the entire WW2 campaign of tanks/weapons/planes and unsplit the faction weapon base. So the big issue I think is bot players just ignore the sherman jumbo leaving you even LESS of a chance of someone dealing with the tank even though the Jumbo is an absolute dumpster fire and the easiest thing to kill as infantry as the second you throw dynamite have one guy toss one behind it and it’s instantly dead or run and sturm pistol for 1/2 shot kill.
no those are from bombs or should be, the turrets dont work as there is 0 crew to man them right now. It’s just hard to balance the JU188 vs the A20 since both bombers are half functional. They where either suicide bombing or it goes off and takes them out as both the 500/250kg bombs have a huge radius I think if you’re around 0-150 altitude it will damage a plane.
Except that the M2 was issued in massive numbers, just not on DDay where it was not present. Towards the end of the war, Im to lazy to google, but IIRC they had produced 140.000 M2 and converted like 260.000 M1s.
The FG42E used in the game never saw more than 2.100 units and certainly was not around at D-Day since the Atlantikwall was a massive dump for captured and old weaponary, which could barely be supplied with Ammunition. If at all. Though, if we go this much into detail there would also not be tanks at all, at least not on the beaches. The US tanks moved in once the beach was secured and german tanks were stuck further inland, against Rommels recommandation. Same goes for the G43, it’s Sniper version, the FG42G and so on.
Actually there were shermans on the beaches at Normandy.
They were put on landing craft, and were also given kits to function amphibiously.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you could still find the ones that sunk off the coast.
Regardless there is a lot of weird and rare weapons in the game.
If we stick to just what was used commonly it will be K98s vs Garands with a smattering of SMGs and MGs.
It is a game going for authenticity, so it should be a game first.
That being said, the FG-42 being equivalent to the M2 is just absurd.
Just like the BAR being equivalent to the MG-42 is absurd, the FG-42 should be an LMG, the description even says so in the game. It’s equivalent should probably be the Johnny gun, as for the MG-42, the US doesn’t really have an equivalent, the BAR is the closest doctrine wise, but it just isn’t really a good comparison equipment wise. US and German infantry formations were just very different. US forces being formed around the power of the rifle with the BAR as a support weapon, well the Germans were formed around the power of the MG with the rifles as support weapons. But in a game where you can have everyone armed with a semi auto rifle on the german side that really falls apart.
The best solution would probably be to use something like the .30 cal browning, it would not be a good comparison, but it would be better then the BAR. Or the BAR needs to go up against the FG-42 and the Johnny gun needs to go up against the MG-42, that could also work.
But with the fundamental differences in how the armies used their equipment the army that was built around Semi auto rifles is at a massive disadvantage when that is taken away but the other side gets to keep their more powerful mgs and field them enmasse.
Basically the biggest problem for the Germans in small arms is eliminated and they get to keep their strengths, well the US does not get the same treatment.
Absolutely. But the availability of full auto weapons for riflemen just throws of the balancing between the classes. I’m all for simply removing the Breda, once Tunesia is out, with the FG42E.
The best option for the americans to counter the MG42 would be the M1919 Browning. Within the game it can fill the same role and they can turn some screws to make it equal. Like giving it a 250 round belt. Then you have a nice compensation for the slower ROF.
However, I don’t mind seeing some rare weapons in the game (like basically all german SMGs) even though they were only used by the SS and not the regular army.
No, I’d rather see the fg 42 removed from being usable by regular troopers. It’s a lmg, make it gunner only. The m2 should be for high level assaulters, give the Germans the mp43/stg44 as a counterpart assault rifle.
