Please balance the jumbo/USA

i feel bad about using it in the first but i have to due to it being the only tank for tanker 2 squad

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Don’t feel bad - it dies just fine to explosives and bombs that will be the usual way you get killed - just as easily as any other tank, and also pretty easily to Pz4’s - which it has a ridiculously hard time killing in return.

It’s only the noob wheraboo’s actually worry about it much.

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i know just that it has the frontal armor equal to a tiger 1 and plus the normal sherman does the job well enough which is why i’m trying to fully upgrade that

Yeah - except for hte bow MG - where the P4’s will aim - and can hit consistently - and kill at least 3 of your crew with 1 shot - if not OHK you.

OTOH I have OHK-ed exactly 2 (TWO!) P4’s with Jumbo in all the time I’ve had it - maybe 3 months now.

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i’m aware of that weakness, you could also just flank it and shoot it in the side and rear and the only issue that the 75mm m3 have is that it doesn’t create shrappel and i believe it can’t frontally pen the pz4 and pz3?

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Yeah - I’ve been done like dinner by 2 Puma’s on opposite sides of hte map - can’t face both at once!! :slight_smile:

The only time I OHK’ed P4’s was on the original D-Day invasion map - they were both at the gun emplacement overlooking the beach on the right hand side as the Allies look at it - I think I must’ve hit the top armour - just above the driver and radio-operator - on both with successive shots.

But yeah - will occasionally kill 1 crew in a P4, can sometimes kill 2-3 on a P3 and slowly attrit it … but otherwise it’s pretty useless vs them.

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yeah i’ve been killed because i got in way over my head and pushed in too far though whenever i face a tank i’ll try to angle my MG port away from them

your losing people because of planes not tanks and have you seen what Germans can do ive seen 300 plus kills way more than jumbo can do

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yeah, the jumbo is indeed “balanced” :rofl:
IMO the problem with this balancing issue is that not many axis players have access to JU-188. While I do agree that the jumbo is not balanced in terms of tank vs tank combat, at least at the moment it can easily be countered by JU-188.

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Doesn’t need to be Ju-188 - Me-110 at Lvl 4 kills it easy.

And the Ju-188 comes in 2 levels before the Jumbo - Lvl 18 vs Lvl 20 …so “not many players have the 188” is pretty well balanced by “takes longer for players to get the Jumbo” :stuck_out_tongue:

But explosive packs remain the best counter to it.

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As i have seen most players don’t even know they shoudn’t angle with Jumbo it is not that hard of target. Panzer IV can easily kill it, MG port or if it angles then just from side, as it has paper tissue armor there.

Explosive packs are not viable solution in all maps, especialy Ver-Sur-Mer Invasion or D-Day invasion as they can easily stay in grey area.

I have unlocked Ju-188 but i refuse to use it because how OP that thing is, but i can still counter Jumbo with my tank.

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alware where do you play on ?= Murica server ?

on Europe server z Germans are way stronger and win way more even when im playing for allies and thats a huge thing coz im pro and win all the time !

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i can also tell you that LF for normandy is good for germany especially assualt and invasion

In the moment where I see the best score player quit I know the match lasted some minuts without reinforcements because timer resets, then players quit.

so no, I don’t think all that 4 players quit due frustration because your Jumbo.

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Yup. I always play on North America as Allies and on Europe as Axis :rofl:

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Jumbo is slow as rolling ketchup and weak to det packs. Just learn tricks to kill it like everything else. It’s weakness is it’s engine, capitalize on it.

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90% of the time the jumbos camp at the spawn tank and snipe.
So no he’s not OP or anything, if the jumbo players would advance a bit more he’d take more risks. And would be exposed to the explosive pack, anti tank gun, tank or anti tank squad.

I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to do +100 kills on the other side of the map, hidden away in an out of area.

If endlisted set a smaller zone for tanks and if a tank is in an out of zone for enemies it would not be able to shoot.

The Germans spam the ju88 like crazy, but in any case 3/4 of the time their tanks are in contact, unlike our dear jumbos that we never see in attack with the troops.

Certainly on the German side there are also tank campers, but 3 times less than the American jumbos, while the jumbos are more armoured in front, being at the other end of the map, the Germans have to aim with more difficulty to take out a jumbo, the jumbo is rather quiet well hidden in its out of zone and to miss the shooting is much less punitive

So go to the contact and we’ll see if the jumbo is so OP.

In infantry, a jumbo can be taken out very quickly, even a molotov cocktail can neutralize it. But as it’s on the other side of the map, it becomes much harder to kill them.

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whaaaaaaaat? I see you don’t play Allied forces…

I am rank29 of the American campaign :slight_smile: it is the fact that I tell a truth that annoys you and in an objective way?

M2 Carbine is a tricky gun but it’s becoming my favorite. It needs to be upgraded to 5 stars minimum and needs to be given to a highly trained soldier with the -40% vertical recoil perk.

Boy does it rip when you have everything in line.