Planes shouldn't be spamable

Got news for you, same shit with the Tanks…I kill a tank, turn around and there is another tank spawning. How bout, lets just eliminate both from the game. :yum:

Plus lets not forget that for the most part a plane bomb in this game cannot penetrate any kind of roof material in this game, so if your worried about planes attacking, just stay inside, under a roof is a safe space against bombs and strafing bullets. :laughing: If your outside, sure, the planes drop bombs, if your inside they become nerf balls.

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LOL
replay is here
check it by yourself
https://enlisted.net/en/replays/#!/replay/420873612092690063

Another guy have shown that AA can’t do shit to CAS spamming
It’s just making them spawn another one.

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We might say “aircraft spam” but so far people only complained about HVAR spam XD

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These are two completely different things. CAS is a much greater threat than infantry, and common sense suggests that aircraft should cost far more than infantry.

For tanks, you can easily kill them before they get in position and fire.
Avarge KT gameplay in Berlin bridge map.

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HVAR isn’t even the point, as an anyfaction player, plane spammers can be found in all factions.

The problem is that CAS in Enlisted is much more efficient than in air combat. If you are team oriented, people will just choose fighters with more payload instead of fighters for air combat.

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exactly

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…some people literally play as air interception dude. It’s not common, but it’s not unheard of. I got a friend who loves doing it every once in a while

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How long have you been playing this game?

Unfortunately the resident forum dwellers will always ignore this because it’s the strategies they rely on to get kills. The facts of the matter are

  • shooting down planes does nothing to prevent another one from immediately spawning. The same principle applies to Greyzone tank campers. This means vehicles have no actual counterplay that actually works.
  • rockets can be deployed outside of AA Lead range, and a majority of the playerbase isn’t good enough to engage without it
  • The entire vehicle gameplay loop heavily rewards minimal skill. Pressing R/space every couple minutes or sitting stationary and clicking rmb to delete entire squads is the lowest level of effort

Vehicles should be high-risk, high-reward. Currently they are minimal-risk, zero-reward spammable squad wipe buttons. There needs to be some sort of penalty to dying in a vehicle that can equally impact both defender and attacker teams. Darkflow won’t impose one, because the people that need the crutch vehicles provide will cope (you already see it between Adam and Flag’s posts), but it’s killing their game. I’ve had multiple friends I’ve tried to get into the game, and they quit because every low BR game is people cycling PZIIINs in the Grey Zone. Playing against US BR 5 is just a TBI simulator with the amount of headshake from rockets planes, rocket tanks, normal tanks, arty, and bombs.

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…some people literally play as air interception dude. It’s not common, but it’s not unheard of. I got a friend who loves doing it every once in a while

and… who said you can’t do it? did I said that? Bye.

They’re paypiggies who shilled out money for additional slots. It’s not meant to be fair.

That’s an issue with slots and the greyzone as a whole. We should have two modifications to resolve this.

No one can have more than one tank and one plane.

All vehicles in the greyzone must vacate the greyzone within 90 seconds or be permanently marked until they exit the zone.

Case closed.
I know a way of implementing some features from strategy games that could mitigate this, but who am I kidding? that won’t sell squad slots.

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Come on buddy. You can’t just go back on what you said like that

Sure buddy, but it’s just as you said yourself: uncommon role, and with reason. You get more value doing something else.

Some people don’t like planes, so lets restrict planes. :roll_eyes:

Some people don’t like tanks, so lets restrict tanks. :roll_eyes:

I hate the endless barrage of Artillery, so lets restrict the artillery :roll_eyes:

So, while we are all whining, what else can we restrict? :thinking:

I guess we have seen with the AP mines that if people whine long enough, some sap at DF might listen. There are so many things wrong with this game, but tanks and planes are not where I would start. Contrary to those who seek to restrict planes, planes need a buff because at the moment, their bombs couldn’t penetrate a sheet of saran wrap if it were a roof. :joy: But yeah, lets further restrict them. :wink:

I do like planes, that’s why I spent almost whole battle of time on fighter.
So my appeal is more like buff aircombat and nerf CAS gameplay.
Fighter are too weak, it should be reasonable if you got skill than you can lockdown the sky.
Rather than endlessly fighting against revenger.

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Yes.

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The current punishment mechanism has serious problems
The rules should be reversed
The aircraft player will only be punished if attacked

Normal players will find cover so there is no need to worry about being attacked by airstrikes.
Abnormal players will suffer less damage due to teammates’ anti-aircraft behavior.
The most important point
Anti-aircraft guns can regain their combat value

CAS only targets idiots so there is no need to weaken it
Because only suicide infantrymen will become long-term victims
If their IQ is high enough to learn to use the terrain to protect them from artillery and bombing, their survivability can be increased by at least 50%.
If you have any doubts about this argument, you can provide a few top views that clearly show the terrain and gray areas. I can tell you how to more effectively reduce the risk of being attacked by aircraft and tank guns during offense and defense.

However, consideration should be given to reducing the visual distance of the mark
Markings visible from 2,500 meters away are a serious threat to the survivability of ground vehicles
Shortened to 1500 meters

How would you like to enhance the air combat experience?
There are only 2 enemies at most in the sky
Let them go round and round with you in the magic of love?
Not to mention the outcome is basically already determined when you’re on the enemy’s flank or rear
Your enemies have no obligation to play dogfight with you.