Next up for the Ostfront

You know Germany did invade Italy, right?

You’re referring to the late war period?
Or is it some obscure technical detail?

If it is former case - I was specifically saying just post Anschluss of Austria. It would even be inter-war period, rather than early (though, in this alt-history scenario, it would raise several questions about what would the western allies do about this duking out of 2 dictators - if they actively intervene, this would be early-war period (assuming this war would at least last for some time), if they don’t - interwar period, since it is not ‘World War’ yet).
If it’s obscure technical detail of Italy… losing territory due to Anschluss, do enlighten me, and us.

I would rather they spent some time fixing and fine tuning things

In fact if they was not friend, italy and hungary instantly declare war on germany because of the rome protocol

In 1934 the Patriotic Front (of which Dollfuss was leader) was declared the only legal party in Austria. Subsequently, on March 17, 1934, Austria, Italy and Hungary signed the Rome Protocols, according to which Italy would intervene militarily in favor of Austria, if she found herself in danger.

But they was friend so instead we get this

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Well, thank You for the details!

In this scenario’s case, it would be Germany + nabbed Austria versus Italy + Hungary.
So, some interesting equipment, albeit early war, would be available for both sides, add some bought weapons from other other countries as premium/late unlocks, and we have ourselves a nice arsenal…
Although, we would need to take a closer look at what kind of weapons were available in 1938.

Eastern Front one love <3

Although with the current “campaigns” and “factions” system none of this matters. We don’t have neither the player numbers nor matchmaker or “play anything with people” button.

With that said, here are some iconic WW2 things I’d love to see:

More Stalingrad maps

More Berlin maps

Berlin suburbs map

Driveable Katyusha

Battle of Kursk (maybe within Stalingrad campaign but with exclusive vehicles for Kursk sub-campaign, idk)

Ferdinand


Jagdpanther

ISU 152

ISU 122

Battle of Budapest map (if DF could recreate city center like Stalingrad :heart_eyes:) (within Berlin campaign, idc)
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Battle of Vienna map (if DF could recreate city center like Stalingrad :heart_eyes:) (within Berlin campaign, idc)

Battle of Konigsberg map (if DF could recreate city center like Stalingrad :heart_eyes:) (within Berlin campaign, idc)

Manchuria (early or late, as long as it’s balanced)
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What I don’t want to see at all at any cost: fantasy stuff

  • RPD
  • AS
  • IS-3
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I am a big fan of your ideas! I don’t get how people say the Japanese VS Soviets would be anymore imbalanced than the USA vs Japan. I think if they emphasized light attack vehicles and APC’s, Manchuria would be awesome! Think about the unique campaign Chinese mainland maps and I like grinding the late war tech for soviets so

If you think Ta Se vs M13 is the same as a Ha Go vs IS2, then your idea of balance is… interesting.

Bro you literally selected the only sentence that helps that argument . The next sentence after that I emphasize light attack vehicles as the primary unlocks for the potential campaign . I agree , no IS model would be appropriate

Wahts the point of fast vehicles if they
a) can drive 40kmh at best on small maps
b) still get rekt by an IS and T34s.
I already took the APC copium pill to simp for Erika but pls no APC at the moment.

And whats the point of adding a campaign where we need to take out historical stuff to make it balanced? Usually its the exact oppositte case.

@87933280
How about the Mongolian Border Conflict in 1939?
It was like 4 or 5 months long, both sides have similiar (bad) tanks, tankettes and armored cars and BA meta.

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You can get about 20 levels from Kalkin Gol at most, I’ll list everything that can reasonably be added below.

  • Mosin M1907 carbine vs Type 38 carbine
  • Mosin M91/30 vs Arisaka Type 38 rifle
  • Mosin M1938 carbine vs Type 44 carbine
  • Mosin M91 “Dragoon” vs Type 99 rifle
  • Mosin M91/30 sniper rifle vs Type 97 sniper rifle
  • PPD 34/38 box mag vs S1-100
  • PPD 34/38 vs Sig M1920 (MP 28 7.63)
  • Madsen vs Type 11 LMG
  • DP-27 vs Type 96 LMG
  • DT-29 vs Type 92 LMG
  • PTRS-41 vs Type 97 anti-tank rifle
  • RM-38 vs Type 89
  • ROKS-2 vs Type 93 Flamethrower
  • BA-10 vs Ha Go
  • T-26 vs I-Go
  • BT-7 vs Chi Ha
  • I-15 vs Ki-10
  • I-16 vs Ki-27
  • BB-1 vs Ki-32

Even if you use the prototype rule, you would only realistically be able to add

  • SVT-38 vs Type Hei rifle
  • AVS 36 vs Experimental Ultralightweight Machine gun/Type Hei LMG

Do the math yourself.

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And how much we will get with Manchuria?
At least Mongolia is not Berlin with Moscow syndrome.

We can get 40 levels with Manchuria, but that’s not the issue with Manchuria. The issue is that it won’t be balanced in any way shape or form.

I think it would take some asymmetrical balancing to pull off , but Manchuria could definitely be done with 40 levels. Why not substitute a Soviet heavy armor squad for another vehicle or hell even rider squad? It could still be a vehicle that was historically used, just not as OP. It was a campaign of big geographic maneuvers , so it makes sense ! Or nah lol

Question is how much experiment and homeland stuff we need there to fill the levels. Mongolia is at least balanced if we really need USSr vs. Japan (which we dont need if you ask me).

donno where to post this so…

honestly quite amazing.

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Problem with Asymmetrical balance is that Japan needs something else of equal value, like Tiger to Thunderbolt. Japan won’t have anything that can match the IS 2 in the air or on land, so…

Yeah, it’s something we don’t need, but even with the homeland stuff and Soviet prototypes, neither side has enough development into weapons in 1939 to fill more than 25 levels from what I can see.

Thanks I’m stoked to see it!
I’ll admit I haven’t seen the original nor read the book, prob should atleast watch the classic lol.

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