Why not. Achilles should be BR 3 as well. Currently it is a pointless vehicle to use on BR 4 when Firefly is also on BR 4 with APDS. Should be acting like a TD that you could rely on when you get uptiered against +1 BR higher tanks just like other TD type vehicles.
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It remains to be seen if they actually have its ROF increased over the tiger 2 or not. The ferdinant should also have the faster firerate aswell but so far the devs refused to aknowledge that.
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Let’s compare it directly with the Dicker Max. Both are open-top tank destroyers. This one has slightly thinner armor but two extra machine guns, and its main gun is downgraded from 105mm to 88mm. There’s no reason to put it at BR4.
It belongs at BR3, definitely. Speaking of which, the ISU-152 only has an enclosed hull instead of an open top, yet its firing arc is just a quarter of the Dicker Max’s.
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Haha, that’s possible. It performs basically the same whether it’s at BR1 or BR4. Besides, this tank is way easier to deal with than the St.Pz. II
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Can they hire a person who plays the game to give away BRs? Yes, this is literally almost sturer emil but +1 br?
Can they also hire someone who will add stuh 42? this isnt funny anymore
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Damn, I hate being right.
My comment on the Nashorn suggestion almost a year ago.
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Still kind of hoping that at least one of the other German BR 4 TDs gets moved down to BR 3 too.
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How dare you! All WW2 vehicles must be added!
Super Pershing can be tricky when playing BR4 - both Panther and Tiger1 need to aim for weakspots.
So I see a reason to play it in BR4.
Also funnily, KV1 is harder to kill with my Panzer IV J than all Soviet BR4 and BR5 tanks with the exception of late IS2 - but even that one can be penned at its turret cheeks and lower chassis. So an argument could be made that Nashorn would be a welcome addition to BR3 - but obviously KV1 and KV2 survivability ahould be fixed instead.
Doesn’t that count as a nerf? The current BR 4meta is already rough. Moving up to BR 4 basically means facing BR 5 vehicles, where we already have the Leopard and Ferdinand. Panthers and Tigers at BR 4 also have solid penetration. Vehicles like the Hellcat, which are in a similar tier, have been dropped to BR 3. So what reason is there to keep the Nashorn from moving up too?
In War Thunder, its cannon and optics give it a huge edge, especially now that maps have gotten much smaller. Even the Dicker Max outperforms it these days.
Hellcats 76mm is nowhere near as powerful as long 88.
call me insane, but if a tank can be penetrated frontally by an AT rifle or any heavy machine gun, it deserves to be BR2 at most
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I aim for the weakspot on the Super Pers’s left side of the turret even with Tiger II. As I said, 160mm+ pen is already enough. There is simply no need for specialised tank hunters with Axis on BR4-5.
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I guess even if it was downtiered to BR3 the Panzer 4H would still be better in most cases. I don’t see any reason for the Nashorn beeing at BR4.
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I was thinking the same thing but I don’t want it to overshadow the Marder TDs
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Ideally they should stop adding tank destroyers with 15mm of armor and instead add something cool like the Brummbar, Sturmmorser, or Jagdtiger
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Where is hetzer? Guys Dev forgot about hetzer!!! how dare!!!
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At this point it’s just coming down to personal preference which I don’t mind .
You’re right. The Jagdtiger already has its model in the game files. It’ll probably be added in an update themed around the Battle for Berlin. After all, it’s a heavyweight vehicle.
What’s more, 122mm guns will struggle to penetrate it even more than the Panzer III M against the KV series. I just hope DF won’t give the Soviets counter vehicles like the SU-100P or ISU-122. IS-3 or Object 44-100 would be much better.
For now, since we’ve got this vehicle, let’s push for it to be placed at BR 3.
Do you think a tank should get a higher battle rating just for being equipped with machine guns?
Does it matter if a single strafe from an aircraft will make it explode because it has no armor?