MP35/I buff, but it stays BR3

M1 Thompson which is worse than M21/28 should be moved first to BR3… But in my opinion its reasonable on BR4 as of now.

There are many other SMGs USSR could get, such as Tallinn Arsenal M23 or just move PPS-43 and Uragan up in BR…

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I’m just talking from Russian perspective i’ve got them from Stalingrad campaign and they are pretty mediocre at BR4, at BR3 Russia has zero smg variety so it could be a cool alternative to overpowered PPSh-41 box

why does everything always have to be powercreeped?
M21/28 Thompson is the third best SMG on BR4, after Tokyo Arsenal and Király.

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And yet it’s vastly inferior to PPSh-41 box due it’s recoil (even tho it has better than average dispersion)

PPS-43 is worse than 42 due it’s bad recoil, it should have 600rpm not imaginary 700rpm, while pps-42 should start with 500rpm. Uragan belongs at BR3 with M1A1 (30 rounds) and there should be added TT 20 round Thompson at BR2. Tommy 7.63 need to go up in BR too as it’s very similar to ZK-383.

I always said that PPS-43 should get the same recoil and moved to BR3…

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Then i wouldn’t be against that change it could be a cool gun at BR3 as right now it’s just only good at close range but we already have gun for exactly that and it’s called PPSh-41 Obrez

(How dare you give Tommies instead of shower pi… err… Sten guns or Lanchester to your Commonwealth men!?)

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Sorry, I was born in an Axis country, I only see Tommies armed with tommies.

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My TeaBoo heart weeps at this comment…

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Oh don’t worry I sometimes see Jerries using their toy gun

Gasp, uncultured cretin! I can’t believe that I was in the midst of a scoundrel this whole time. Your very presence sullies my essence, I must remove myself.

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The rate of fire sounds way faster than 540rpm and it seems akin to something in the range of 700-750rpm (im comparing the video to footage of a G36 mag dump side by side), which I guess with a 650rpm at base it would put it at the 750rpm mark once fully upgraded - conversely it could with something in the realm of 700rpm+ at base but with upgrades it would overdo it buff-wise

buff the ROF and put it in br3, germany BR2 has way more options than BR3 does, and nobody touches the FNAB due to its ultra low ROF

br2 and br3 balance needs a whole overhaul because of intense powercreep

M1 thompson, PPS43, beretta M1, etc all need to be pushed up or nerfed

the mp40 or type 2a SMG should ideally be the power level for BR2 smgs

Type 2a smg is overpowered it has zero recoil, while Mp40 bounces like crazy due awful visual recoil and average dispersion despite low rof. PPS-42 is way stronger than PPS-43 so i dunno why you want to nerf worse guns but not one that is just superior.

That gun is trash and needs massive buff just like MP40/38. BR2 germany is full of bad smgs none of them outside of GO weapons and premiums are any good.

When you look at the TT of all 4 nations then it’s obvious that Germany has the weakest by far smgs of all nations.

Beretta M38/42 buff was cool but that gun has above average recoil so it’s pretty hard to control at times.

Even searches I have done seem to indicate that the PPS-43 shot about 550 as well. On the FNAB, I have seen a couple stating 600-837 and one saying 400, and I haven’t watched the video. My question is why does DF seem to use the high numbers in Soviet smg’s and the lower numbers in German? If they are going to keep the FNAB at such a low ROF, then they need to greatly increase it’s hitting power. Slow and weak are not a great counter against Soviet fast and over buffed IMOP. :rofl:

As far as the MP35. Currently, it sucks as a level three smg, and really is a level two smg masquerading as a level three. The way it currently is, it should be dropped to level two as it has basically the same stats as the level two short barreled version. It would make no difference in the performance of the gun whether labeled level two or three, but people might actually use it at level two as it is, there is not a chance it will be used in level three. If DF wants to buff it to keep it at level three, I would be fine with it as long as it keeps it “somewhat” historically accurate. If they slow it, then greatly increase the hitting power, otherwise it is still unusable. I personally don’t care how many smg’s are at each level as that is just a level designation. If the current MP35 was dropped from level three to level two, it makes zero difference in the guns performance, it just means now it can be used in a lower level, but still be the same as it already is at level three, which means it is still the same weapon for those who actually do use it at level three meaning it doesn’t affect them.

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Guess you mentioned the wrong Beretta. :smiley: Possible that you meant the Beretta M38/42? Beretta M1 has same ROF like MP40, nearly the recoil, 0,2 less damage but 8 rounds more in each magazine.
Only the Beretta M38/42 which was put down on BR II received buffs (and Beretta M38A 40rounds in terms of muzzle velocity)

You did a great job🫡

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Was approved, so it’ll get 650 base RoF, less recoil and a faster reload, aswell as the velocity fix (so the damage becomes 6.8 upgraded)

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