Me 262

funnily enough the type of experience would matter too since an axis pilot farming off slav planes were frequently bested if they were sent to fight the western allies who were trained by their aces

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Yeah I can confirm this too.
Hungarian pilots mostly fought against Soviets until mid 1944. They had a small but very well trained air force thus had high win ratio, however encountering American bomber squadrons escourted by P-51 mustangs came a huge shock in which the Royal Hungarian Air Force suffered high losses initially.
They had to adopt, formed the 101st airgroup from the best pilots and aces with best aircraft available, new tactics were adopted which put Hungarians on equal footing.

Maybe because those jets in question where used in WW2 ? Mainly on the german side as allied forced did not really have the wunderwaffe mindset of the germans but still they had a small number of them.

Adding the korean war would only justify post war stuff never used in WW 2 to be added for the US and the US alone as they are the only current faction that paticipated in it. Giving them an edge over every other faction worth 8 years of development (and prototypes).

Given how the german arms industry stopped to exist in 1945 for a long time there is no way you could expand the scope of of weapons much past that in a fair manner unless you jump strait to the cold war.

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no…russia was also there as combat pilots and i want to say some ground forces. also russian equipment was used in korea such as T-34, SKS and most importantly the MiG-15

So does germany get the MiG 15 too as the NVA did operate those too at the time?
If yes then good luck having any semblance of a somewhat believable battlefield.

EDIT:
Ok, it wasnt the NVA itself but their precurser organisation in the KVP that did operated them.

you can always do a cold war gone hot situation, and honestly they should take some alternate history stuff into an actual battlefield such as operation downfall which would have happened if the emperor had not broken the deadlock between the two sides of the big 6

Jets pls! Would love to see this.
Am expecting them at some point seeing what modern tanks and guns get added. Would be greatly dissappointed in DF if they didn’t add it.

More to do with pilot training than aircraft quality - if you aren’t getting 7:1 then your seat-to-stick interface is the problem.

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Can confirm this.
Even when uptiered, if you know what you’re doing you’ll make any aircraft work in air to air combat, as long as it’s designed with some air to air capabilities in mind.

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The only planes I brought up were Jets that were actually flying before the war ended. The allies COULD have easily deployed the Meteor and the Airacomet in WWII. The Me262’s first Jet powered flight was in July 1942. The Airacomet first flight was October 1942 and the Meteor was March 1943. If DF were to incorporate Jets, IMOP these would be the ONLY jets I would include since they were all operational and could have all been deployed in the war had their militaries chose to do so.

The Meteor first entered operational service on July 27, 1944, with No. 616 Squadron of the Royal Air Force. The Meteor was the first British jet fighter and the only Allied jet aircraft to see combat in World War II

Me262 was deployed and used as everyone knows.

Personally, I don’t care if DF in the future chose to incorporate them as I am happy with the piston planes.

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They could and they did. Even operated out of France and Belgium for the last 6 months of the war conducting ground attack. Just didn’t see any air to air action aside from intercepting V1 missile out of England.

I’d say thats quite a notable combat record.

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Yeah, and the Airacomet could have seen service for a year or two during the war had the USAF chose to use it, but they said it wasn’t any faster then propeller planes so it made no sense to use. :joy:

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Turns like crazy tho, atleast in war thunder. But i ultimately understand their decision.

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Actually it did see other air-air action - but no kills - a Fi-156 managed to evade several attacks by Meteors only to be destroyed on the ground after landing!

see METEORS OVER THE Reich

Not really notable - but certainly real

still more notable than the p-80 which only did recon missions over italy :pensive:

About the same I’d say - only notable for being allied jets.

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Very notable! Britains first jet powered engagement with a manned aircraft.

Can see the issue of intercepting an aircraft who’se Vne is likely lower than your Vs0 LOL

Why did this post pretty much guess exactly what they would do?

Added all besides the P-59: Update "Jet Power"