Remove the pistol tier. I don’t think it affects game balance even if a lower tier player has p08 or c96. Players should be allowed to have their favorite pistol.
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I’ve just read through this entire thread and haven’t seen anyone mention what seems obvious to me…
If the developers knew that people misinterpreted their table as being related to BR then -
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1/ Why didn’t they mention this immediately ?
Instead they allowed everyone to argue in the forum thinking it was a BR tier list AND they even posted various replies to the discussions but without clearing up the misinterpretation. -
2/ Why change the tier list from 10 to 5 based on people’s demands - which were ONLY based on a misinterpretation of what the tier list actually was supposed to represent ?
People were NOT complaining about the progression tiers being 10 levels -
they were complaining about BR tiers being 10 levels !
(and not wanting BR+/-1 etc. due to meeting players with higher BR weapons)
The BR List needs to be 5 levels and hard-locked…
The Progression List can be 10 or even more levels as the number of levels isn’t really an issue anyway.
Is it just me, or does this seem extremely incompetent ?
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I’ve been wanting to ask for awhile now, but will there be any improvements in historical accuracy to the game? Currently, squad size and makeup (at least in terms of primary weapons equipped) don’t represent a lot of nations historically. For example, an early to mid war German infantry squad would have a squad leader carrying and SMG along with an MG gunner, something impossible in-game. Also, will weapon unlocks in the campaign progression be reworked? Many extremely common historically important weapons such as the MG 42, Panzerfaust, or Thompson SMG are near the end of campaigns taking hundreds of hours to unlock. The MG 42 was the foundation of a German infantry squad, and Panzerfausts were notoriously common during the fighting in Normandy…
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Oh man - where have you been all this time ?
I think the community here have accepted a long time ago that this level of historical accuracy is never gonna be a thing here.
There are a few milsim groups who attempt to restrict weapons to a more realistic setup, but unfortunately there’s always some players who just break the rules and run around with whatever they want to use.
The way to get round the squad leader issue is simply to play with a milsim group and have an Assaulter as Squad Leader (so he can have an SMG). We used to have realistic British Army sections with bolt-action rifles and a 2-man Bren group (IRL it would’ve been a 3 man group). One problem was the limit on group size being 4, so we had to use 2 groups per section.
Initially I helped training a German unit before I moved over to being head trainer for a British Army unit (11th Armoured Div)
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I like the feeling of team communication and cooperation.
I can often experience this kind of atmosphere of communicating with teammates in CRSED’s 4~5-person team battles. which is also made by DF
I gave it a nod. Funily enough after they released first draft i asked if it was just a tier list and not a BR list. Went unanswered.
In any case, this tier list is not really anything interesting, since it has nothing to do with BR.
Yes.
For example, Here actually means we dont want 10 BRs splited players .
Anyway, thankfully this tech tree has nothing to do with BR.
Best if they don’t implement any BR,
if it’s going to be forced to implement BR, the BR level should be less than 5
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au you can see,WWI super man can use some far more powerful weapons lol,which better than some WWII trash
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so how about paratrooper?it is not exist in the level that everyone can reach?if not so,it is terrible that only old player and payer can get it.
Here
Actually, if this would also be the upcoming BR, I would be surprised at how well the devs understand the meta, this list is actually pretty good.
I think it will be way better. Since this is only progression.
Finally I see devs really knows what they’re doing. I just don’t understand why they didn’t explain it sooner.
I think nearly everyone thought so… Not just “some players”.
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I’m honestly quite disappointed, now that I know these tech trees don’t reflect the balance. That is the most important thing. Why show us only the order of progresssion? How much does it even tell us, when we don’t know the XP cost?
Have you not figured out the BR yet, or do you just not want to tell us? I think we’re in for a nasty surprise…
Yep, we basically don’t know anything. This progression basically isn’t even relevant to veteran players.
But it’s still relieving af. I thought the situation is way worse and I am really glad I was wrong.
Yep, I think this is the case. Since they are still working on progression, not even balance itself. We shouldn’t really expecting merge soon. Exactly as Major said.
But I really wonder what next update will be… I got literally no clue.
But if something, I would expect more content for pacific.
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I’m not really bothered by BRs and Tiers, all I want to see is which weapon/vehicle will be linked to which map?
If MP-3008 in Tunisia and Ofenrorh in Stalingrad, I’m out.
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just read the new tech three, where is the stalingrad special weapons?
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Talking about separation of a stretched out player base and you want to add tiers? I feel like this is going to force people away even further… I struggle to find a game on War Thunder because of this issue. I feel as if the model of the game in it’s current state is phenomenal, and don’t fix what isn’t broken. Love this game, just to be said, and I’d hate to see it die. Please don’t kill Enlisted
Not to mention 90% of the player base is going to be tier 4 and 5 now… Good job
Since most likely there will be a research malus tied to tier gap between what you play and the researched item, then the less tiers, the better.
eh… kinda
different main weapon, and slighlty lower profile compared to that tall box and faster reload.
therefore, situational.
in berlin, doesn’t really shine as you are so low that dead chassy of tanks prevents you from even seeing the enemy or be able to shoot them. though, it’s angled.
even though against 85s can die in one shot ( if your opponents knows where to shot, which it’s rare )
it could be devastating in normandy ( the campaign where originally was designed to be in. )
so, if are against the soviets, it’s going to be a meh, if you are going to be against the muricans after the merge, will be a huge thing due to low profile and angled armor .
( also, it has good he. dunno about the panzer IV/70a. i never used it. looks ugly )