Kill death ratio mean nothing, take normandy campaign as example, you get instantly killed by a plane a lot of time, so you die more you kill, but if in all this death you have build rally, captured zone ecc… you already have done a better job and proved yourself as good player wo support his team for the victory
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K/D ratio as it is counted in this game full with idiotic AI is a joke, for example, I spawn, BOOM! goes the bomb, 8 of my guys are dead, and without doing anything I’m at -8 negative K/D ratio, clearly a skill issue right?, so now I have to solo kill 8 more guys before dying and still I’m left with -1 negative K/D ratio, WOW! a truly meaningful metric indeed, GTFO!!
What would make sense is a kill/spawn ratio without planes/tanks counted and then you would MAYBE have some meaningful metric which you could possibly use…
Yes and no to a lot of what you say.
Its not always about throwing yourself at the point.
I sacrifice squads all the time to buy time if we lose a point and I want to give my team a chance.
I’ll also play interference outside the point to thin them out before they contest it.
All of these efforts mean that I die a lot. The most important thing is I am making my deaths meaningful. Sure it costs tickets but its a worthy spend so long as you are being smart about it.
The problem I have with a lot of players who specialize is if you take them out of their element they lack the skill to help in other ways. I dont mind if someone is in a tank and doing what they can, but if they see me struggling to contain things, they need to have the situational awareness to swap to infantry and help with the push or the block.
The best saying for this game is.
“A jack of all trades is a master of none, but still better than a master of one.”
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It’s mean nothing in here.
I just played a axis Moscow game and soviet lost the game by timer. They didn’t want to rush and die trying to do something useful.
And it’s not like game is completely balanced, I had to kill ppsh spammers by my bolt action rifle in there. You think who’s going to get the better kdr, my lvl 12 axis squads or a max level allies? As simple as that, even if I lost 20 squad to defend the capture point, making raly, destroying enemy raly, enemy tank and bomber, we won the game because I helped and carried my team instead of camping and trying to get a better kdr.
150kill,20 death is better than a sniper camper with 60kill 3 death. Specially as defender.
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Lol this is nonsense, just like the other examples provided above.
You all assume in your examples that just because you build an ammo box, captured a point, made a rally, destroyed enemy rally, and/or tank/plan, that somehow all of this is was DEFINITELY not made possible by someone on your team dropping bombs to take out enemy squads, or someone in a tank suppressing an enemy tank or etc.
What always made me amused is not the fact that basic math seems like rocket science here, it’s the fact that you choose to bundle everyone with K/D ratio into some sort of “lone useless sniper” or “spawn camping tanker”. I mean I can just as well tell you that building a rally point that isn’t used by a team, or constructing AT/AA gun locations that majority of team won’t find or is also useless… but that would make me act like you and therefore childish.
Lol yes, because a sniper with a bolt action rifle must immediately rush into melee combat with far better equipped assault squads to be worthy for you, right? I mean you really can’t see any scenario where it could have been the same sniper that saved your own ass as you build your ammo box? He could not have been the same sniper that covered you while you building/destroying a rally point? No, he can’t right? For someone like YOU, His K/D being high would automatically imply that he camped at the edge of the map shooting random players, NEVER helped his team, and his stats are meaningless therefore because they are better than yours!
Got it. A tanker mowing down infantry and holding an entire enemy team long enough to defend an objective AND surviving, DOES NOT help his team. Nope, it’s only the guy who died 45 times to build an ammo box or rally point. Cause that’s real skill. Lmao ok. 
Silly quote and probably made by someone who was jack of all trades and master of none.
I have 1.62 million subscribers on my channel and those who play Enlisted on my channel and watch my streams can generally agree that being a master of ONE trade, is more than enough if your team has other masters. A team made up of “Jacks” going up against will not fair well.
Not this again. If someone is actually interested in what majority of forum participants think about KD see the link to a previous topic where @120921951 tried to prove his theory but ultimately failed to convey any meaningful thoughts. Was a fun topic though XD
Anyway if you concentrate on KD only you are probably losing a good portion of what this game has to offer…
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Lotr in comparison is a light book
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Sadly you can’t even read my reply. I can get 300+ kill in tunisia without a single death, I can farm all t32/is1-2 in my king tiger in berlin but what about my lvl 12 Moscow campaign? Does it even matter if I die with my bolt action rifle 999 times when I’m defender? As defender you can rush and die all you want as long as you’re making your enemy suffer.
KDR mean nothing here because the game and the campaigns are not balanced. If you’re playing the easy side of the campaign then it’s much easier to get more kill and more important thing is there’s no tickets for defender. That’s the only advantage defender has, you should be an idiot to not use it, die all you want and there’s no punishment for it. If you’re not using it then you don’t even know how to play this game.
One last thing, Ik many people that play aggressive sniper, you know why? Because they don’t need to hide 150m behind the capture point to kill. They can aim while they’re rushing and helping.
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Lol you didn’t have to really go and prove that you can’t read or comprehend.
I read your reply. And I know exactly what you meant - and I summarized it. The ration may mean nothing to you, but that’s all that it is - your opinion. Is it shared by some others? Probably. Is it substantiated? Perhaps. That’s not the issue. What is striking is the amount of agressiveness and hate that is demonstrated by some half wits here attacking anyone posting here and taking pride in their K/Ds.
The question becomes… what’s your problem? Why does he or I have to adhere to your “understanding” of the game? What makes you better than him or I? You think because you blurt something you hold true and it shared by some parrots here it is somehow a golden rule?
The OP likes his stats. He is a free man can post his thoughts about it. If your idea is to beat him down to death by claiming he is some newbie or retard, then it says more about you than the topic.
You can play “Defense” any way you see fit. But perhaps he plays for realism. Or perhaps he thinks he can make a better contribution in some other format rather than rushing and dying - who are you to belittle, call him an idiot for not using “your method” or etc? You do realize it’s a game right, kid? Try to cope, please.
Thank you for your time.
Ele
Told you these kids go bananas. It’s their soft spot. It must be a single stat that they may not excel at for variety of reasons - intentional or unintentional. But despite the hate, remember that it’s just their opinions. And I hope this dismissive and abusive language isn’t a motivation not to be on the forum or play the game.
Remember, people on the forum here do not represent the majority of community, and I hope that you continue to have fun playing this game any way you see fit.
Ele
where did I or someone else said we’re better? Someone above said he think the kdr is something important and I simply explained why it’s not. Stop making a darama out of nothing.
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If so you have plenty of audience to brag about KDR without the need to do that here, where it obviously doesn’t work because general consensus looks elsewhere.
And yet a large portion of forum users is made by veteran players with plenty of experience about what does win matches and what doesn’t.
I’m sure your subscribers are more entertained by seeing you frag people left and right, rather than seeing you hammering a rally point in a quiet corner. Still, in plenty of matches, Bob the Builder can trump an enemy team of Rambos only.
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You sound like the kind of players I want in my team.
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Thanks for the reminder. I forgot who this guy was until then.
People just want to stoke their Egos.
I know my KD/R is under 2 to 1 (its average, some campaigns are 3 to 1 others like Normandy are 1.25 to 1).
But I play for the team, not personal gratification.
Until yesterday, I was 54 straight Ws before I finally lost to a far superior Moscow Allies team.
Right now on Stalingrad, I am still undefeated as Axis, though that can change any day now.
Let me help you understand this one last time. OP wanted to compare his K/D because he apparently takes pride in this. You immediately attacked him with your post and following statements:
You can see that your statements immediately attacked his pride as “nothing”. Basically attributed his K/D being higher to being a “camper”. Because according to you, that’s the only way to get high K/D. You may not have wanted to sound mean but you certainly got there by your statements and conclusions. All I am saying is, please, consider that you do not know everything, and let people play as they see fit. It’s just a game. You can certainly explain why you have certain opinion, but once you attribute the other opinion to meaning “nothing” and “being a camper” it certainly sounds ignorant, selfish and downright stupid.
As to me having drama, here are quotes below from some of your fellow triggered clowns who tend to be on aggressive, sarcastic side and whose opinions aren’t as mildly put as yours:
Now as to this dude:
Topic was posted by OP - not me. You can read, right? Which one of us in the wrong section? I? or you? And likewise, if you do not share OP’s enthusiasm for his K/D pride, why are you in this topic? Only to say that his pride is meaningless? You have plenty of space in the community forum to speak of your own “useless” or “meaningless” topics where we might never post, come to share or do anything else, yet you came to this topic and hillariously trying to tell OP and I that we should go elsewhere to discuss what is important to us. Morale of the story - please find your way out of topics if you have nothing to add, rather than tell OP and others to go elsewhere with topics related to Enlisted that you do not share. Hope that helps! You do not represent the general concensus, do not know it, and certainly aren’t a game moderator. So please keep your “instructions” to yourself. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
You are welcome to have that opinion based on absolutely nothing. I am not going to bother to ask you how you’ve come to that meaningless generalization just to suit your point, and frankly it’s irrelevant. Because your assumptions that all of us play this game just to “WIN MATCHES” is ridiculous obviously.
Bottom line in all of this, please be considerate of others. You do not represent all. If you do not like the topic - please don’t post. You do not need to tell people go elsewhere, because they don’t share your opinion. It’s silly. Remember it’s a game. The most important message in my channel is “share your experiences but remember it’s just a game”. Sharing an opinion is quite ok. But shoving it down someone else’s throat by claiming “we all agree here”, “the best people are here”, or other utter nonsense is comical if it wasn’t super sad.
Cheers! See you in games!
I remember you as well. You are someone who pretends he is calm and all knowing only to lob veiled insults. I don’t post my win percentages, victories in a row or other nonsense to brag. So much for “stocking egos”
That is epic. Nothing says my way is the best way to play and everything else is “personal gratification”. Why? Well cause you said so, I am sure. Because your way is the only way to enjoy this game. Everything else is obviously wrong. Your evidence? “Well look at my record - I almost never lose”.
Thank you for sharing. I am glad you enjoy your games!
I’m always calm, and ego hahaha.
You have your millions of YT subscribers ect and all that other nonsense and you go at me on Ego. Everything you post is self serving to your own agenda. To your glorification and fabrication of a narrative that only suits you.
Where as I post on here to help and have honest discourse. All across the forum. But sure you do you, as you always do.
You are both a hypocrite, and attention seeking. You immediately wanted to find fault in what I posted. It was merely to prove again KD/R means nothing to winning games.
I never said my way was better, I said my way helps the team, in a team game.
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Where did I say the only way to get high kdr is camping? xD
I said
and that’s it. if you want to get high kdr with camping and not helping your team then sure it’s mean nothing, in the same time if you’re a good tanker and you’re helping your infantry and in the same time you get a good kdr then good for you, no one here have any problem with that. as long as you help your team you can play the way you want (camping with sniper is not really efficient and I said that as an example, I didn’t say that’s the only way to have a good kdr and I didn’t say people with good KDR are bad players. mine is 2.5 in tunisia , 1.5 in axis berlin)
and as I said before there was a guy talking about his opinion on why kdr is important and that’s why I even said anything here, I just explained why it’s not important.(again not important doesn’t mean people with good KDR all are bad players. it just really not important in here. after all it’s not CSGO you know)
I’m sorry to say that but I feel like you’re only trolling in here, trying to get some attention. the fun thing is even the OP didn’t say anything. we’re trying to help people get better in this game if you have any reason that KDR is important then share it here, if you like the post then do what OP asked and leave but stop making drama. stop saying nonsense that has no logic in it