Ki-43-II: Change The Event Version, Add A BR1 Version To Tech Tree

Add a Ki-43-II variant to the tech tree, 2 x 100kg bombs, to BR 1?
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Change the event Ki-43-II to carry 2 x 250kg bombs, at BR 2?
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With it’s two 12.7mm machine guns and 2 x 100kg bombs, the Ki-43-II is the perfect candidate for a Japanese tech tree fighter at BR 1. Currently, their best (and only) option for a BR 1 fighter in the tech tree is the A5M4, while this Ki-43-II is more comparable to the Soviet Yak 1, which has less firepower but more maneuverability. If there was another option for a Japanese fighter for BR 1 with 2 x 100kg bombs that wasn’t more powerful than the Ki-43-II, I would suggest adding that instead, but it doesn’t exist. This is the only option.

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With this in mind, I believe the event Ki-43-II should stay at BR 2, but instead receive 2 x 250kg bombs. It has this ordnance loadout available in War Thunder:

It’s a lot of ordnance for a BR 2 fighter, but of course it’s slow and has weak firepower. It certainly is weaker than the Soviet P-40E-1, American P-38G, and Axis IAR-81C.

And with all of this in mind, Japan deserves a better BR 2 tech tree fighter also, but that’s beyond the scope of this suggestion.

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250kg bombs would make It at least BR4 because the I-185 with 2 of those is BR5

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So is the Ki-100 at BR 3, but it’s a much, much more capable plane than the Ki-43-II. The planes that I mentioned that are all tech tree for the other factions at BR 2 have similar ordnance payloads, but much better machine guns/cannons and speed.

Ki-43-II at BR 2 with 2 x 250kg bombs would be fine.

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I think that’s a bit too much for BR II maybe they can give us the rocket variant:

Instead of bombs will be better.

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2 ~500lb on a fighter at BR2? HELL NO!

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The Japanese bombs are worse then the US and the Soviets there is a plane with 2 of them already in BR II but its a ground attacker for a fighter is a bit too much.

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I don’t know why you said that when it has absolutely zero relevance to my issue with this post but ok.

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  • with this plane not with the post :smiley:

You are having issue with the plane not with the post.

Ki-100 is a br4 plane.

P38 rockets are total ass compared to two 250kg bombs and all other u.s. event/TT br2 fighters get half the payload the ki-43 has currently

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Remember, a fighter that only goes 530 km/h and has two offensive 12.7mm machine guns.

Compare that to the other BR 2 fighters that are tech tree options, not even event rewards:

Soviet P-40E-1: 1 x 250kg bomb, 2 x 100kg bombs (50kg less overall payload, but in three total capable bombs), and 3x the 12.7mm machine guns.

P-38G: 1 x 20mm cannon, 4 x 12.7mm machine guns, 6 M8 rockets and 100km/h faster top speed.

IAR-81C: 2 x 20mm cannons, 2 x 7.92mm machine guns, 1 x 250kg bomb, 2 x 50kg bomb, 511km/h.

Trust me, this plane would not be as strong as these other contenders. Please consider all variables before making an absolutist statement, it’s more productive overall to the conversation.

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If you are bad at using rockets, that doesn’t make the plane bad. P-38G is a menace.

If the Ki-100 is a BR 4 plane, the P-51D-5 is a BR 5 plane.

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Ki-100 is superior in every way except speed. If you intentionally crash and die after a bomb drop the p51 is better. If your intention is to stay alive the ki-100 is better hands down, no if, ands, or butts.

It’s really not though. It’s good for aerial combat, and it retains it’s speed well even in sustained turning. The rockets were nerfed incredibly hard after multiple seperate nerfs. Why do you think it’s br2? If the rockets retained their former glory it would easily be a br3 or even br4 plane. They absolutely suck against infantry, and a single rocket used to take out tigers with ease. Now you have to hit tanks just right. They really did the m8s dirty. Instead of just making it suck at everything they should of atleast made it strong in one element or another (tanks or infantry).

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Mhm. And the plane is a fighter… you mentioned a bomber for what reason? Like I said it’s irrelevant.

It’s perfect for BR II as it is. nothing to fck with here
and 250kg for BR II is a shit bad idea

so what does an ideal BR 1 fighter for Japan’s tech tree look like?

Just like how the P-38 and P-51 should be BR5 because the J2M3 is at BR5. That’s clearly the only solution and there’s no other way to go about it

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I mean sure I guess if turn time is the only metric that matters then yeah, but it’s not. Realistically the P-51D is the plane that benefits more from staying alive longer because you can gain and retain more energy. If all you do is fly low altitude and flat turn whenever a plane shows up then yeah the Ki-100 is better, but not everyone relies on flat turning to win.

I think it’s fairly obvious: of course 2 x 250kg bombs is a lot of ordnance for a BR 2 fighter. However, the Ki-43-II is lacking in a lot of other stats compared to it’s competition.

And @Emperor_Yoshiro 's idea of giving it rockets instead is also a viable option.

Either way, the following two statements are true:

- The decision has been made that Enlisted will have an event variant of the Ki-43-II.
- The best option for a Japanese BR 1 fighter is the Ki-43-II with 2 x 100kg bombs.

All this post is intended to do is give Japan’s BR 1 the best possible tech tree option, while acknowledging that removing the Ki-43-II from becoming an event plane is impossible, and it therefore needs to be differentiated from the ideal tech tree variant.

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Can you read really ??? The only irrelevant thing on this forum is you at this point I should have deported you long time ago. Please use your head… I literally told you that a fighter in BR II should not be having same payload as a attacker plane in BR II please deport yourself for the love of god…

From all the people on this forum you are at the top of my list with stupid questions like for real do you see the reason why please tell me that you do or you are getting one way ticket to Mexico City… its like diversity lottery but for deportation. If you are lucky you may even win a free spin on the WEF Wheel of Fortune good luck.

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Perhaps that is on me… I didn’t fully understand your message… seemed that you were comparing a fighter to attacker which was what I was commenting about, my apologies.

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