I don’t know why do we even have air service springfield in Enlisted if devs want to “recreate realism”
That rifle just never saw combat use
nevermind
pz3b also never come to frintline in real after poland
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It’s not like it’s an absurd weapon.
It’s one thing to be like the battlefield franchise where everyone is running around with wunderwaffe, but if the devs want to fill a gameplay niche with a well-grounded weapon that had no reason not to be used, I don’t see a problem with it.
The way I see it, the only people who will complain about something like that breaking immersion are the ones who don’t like getting killed by it and want to use an alternative argument.
I don’t think it’s a bad Idea, just not realistic
bolt action with chumongous magazine is somewhat absurd.
And either way it is P2W (even if your reload is longer, 25 rounds is such a high ammount you can kill full squads without reload so it is objectively better than a 5-round magazine that has to be reloaded)
We have also asked for the removal of BA-11 and Pz3 because they were never used. Why does this P2W gun get a pass? Something that isnt “because I paid for it”
We already have double perk capacity on premium soldiers
We also have an objectively better gun with the MP41
P2W is getting somewhat insane
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many thanks^^
I miss my 18 damage Dragoon 
I’m tired of having to double tap upper torso
guys how will you guys upgrade the premium weapons coz they are not available from loot boxes
You can’t!
Hence why I made that bug report.
18 damage and 59 shots per minute???
why can’t regular weapons have that
Its even more once fully upgraded after wipe 
(if they manage to recover them fully upgraded of course)
Upgrading weapons is part of your progression. Without progression, this game is dead. I would personally like more things we can unlock/upgrade but something has to be done about the time it takes to unlock and upgrade things. Also, something has to be done about how you can obtain these upgrades.
And I honestly don’t mind early backers of the game getting better weapons. It’s much more justified than the founder packs.
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all rifles need reworking, long rifles have higher RoF than short ones
We don’t pay enough to have that. two premium squads wasn’t enough money for the snail I suppose. Which kinda makes sense in how Gaijin lives off the whales that spend 10k+ on war thunder.
With the current progression system, this game is also dead, soo not really a factor here.
Mooelu doesnt care, he just wants to spend 2000 hours to obtain OP gear and stomp newbies.
Pay to win cannot be justified, unless your justification is “well the game will die within the year, might as well milk as much money from the players as we can”.
And the game let’s him do that
18 damage for a rifle that didn’t even saw combat in ww2 is too much
Plus this rifle was too long and heavy, and despite the long barrel, bullet was not much more powerfull
The weight isnt even higher on the gun, 5kg as always 
The devs are too lazy to edit weight values so each gun has its own, realistic weight.
Which has been my issue for the past months
imo, you should not have to spend more than 500 hours to get ANY top tier loadout.
In Enlisted, this translates into having 3 squads fully kitted out so you can spawn in and always have good soldiers.
Like, we are now expected to spend 1k+ hours per nation, per campaign. And I am NOT spending 8k hours to get a decent experience on all campaigns.
I do agree but that is a different problem altogether. And I don’t think much is going to change, now that we are allegedly close to OBT. Best to work with what we have and try knocking some sense in to the devs.
That is much better than spending money to stomp newbies. You can stomp newbies with way lesser time spend in the game. From my experience playing a much worse Soviet side than now during alpha and Germany since then, you can compete with any top tier player quite easily after campaign level 12. Requires a bit of luck and I would like to see that go. Even then, you don’t need 500 hours.
I am regularly up against players much higher tier than me. Players with flamethrowers and what not. Yet, I finish top of the scoreboard 8/10 games. I don’t have the premium squad nor fully upgraded weapons. I don’t use the academy often, therefore no levelled up troops unless I get lucky from the packs. And I haven’t played a FPS game other than Enlisted in the last odd 6 years.
Knowing that a complete revamp of the progression system is not on the cards atleast in the near future, its easier to have a matchmaking system which protects players until campaign level 5 before putting them up in common match making. And then see how things play out in open beta.
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To make it clear - its how the game is balanced, russian rifles do more damage, german rifles shoot faster. And vise versa with SMGs, russian SMGs do less damage but with high fire rate, german SMGs are slower and tougher. This is not a simulation game, things like 'amount of damage" which isnt a real life factor - is a balance measure and range of fire is this game has no real impact, except for a damage, which is a balance measure, again. Like its so obvious, no need to complain about p2w. These guns are 3 months ingame and people didnt even knew they are there. Making problem out of nothing, literally.
Except he HAS spent money to stomp newbies. He owns premium squad and P2W founders weapons
lacking the weapon upgrades
lacking the perks
Yeah uh no. You might have the guns, but you still lack 50% comparitive DPS because of you not having +35% health or +15% damage. You might be able to kill them, but that is not competing. Competing implies that skill and pre-selected matchups (think rock-paper-scissors / counters) are the only thing determing whether you win.
Except your gun shoots as fast, if not faster, than most german rifles
and dont try telling me 18 damage unupgraded is perfectly fine when comparing to a sliighly higher rate of fire at the cost of only 14 damage on the other rifles.
I have known they were here for ages. And even if they actually weren’t known, doesnt change the fact: They are pay to win. It is not a good idea to give the top 5% of players just better guns because they decided to buy into the game early