Italy should replace Germany in Tunisia + talking about Italian guns and why were they good

Way more interested in stuff that doesn’t get covered as much. Italy in Tunisia way up there

Really hoping for operation husky. Never gets any coverage cos of embarrassment. Only game I remember that covered it was a bf 1942 expansion and damn it was cool.

Well. It depends much on the time period there.

BF 1942 “Road to Rome” and PS2 version on CoD 2 “Big Red One” had Sicily too, like 3 missions, 2 vs Italians, one on Gela beach and one in some town i dont remember, and 3rd mission vs Germans in Messina. Sadly Italians are not covered in lot of games.
Tbh, Italy military is something i really like in WW2, if they had better officers it could have looked a lot different, but sadly officers were assigned to units because of politics instead of being good. But there were some exceptions, like 185th Airborne Division or 132nd Armored Division, well all of Motorised and Cavalry units were good.

Only tanks and planes would be better versions, infantry weapons would be almost same, with some new additions like PPSh, another than that, it would be stuff we already seen.

I would like to see it like this focus on italy, First part italy only. Planes like ba 65 c202 cb tanks m13/14 and m16celere :stuck_out_tongue: and for the second part mix with germany tanks attacker ect.

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There were some epic Italian units, navari ring a bell? And they did that in the shittiest r35 tanks. Probably just as well Italian forces were misused. Could of caused alot of trouble.

I have a soft spot for Italian WW2 history. Interests me.

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Yeah, me too.

Ba-65 were already out of service by that day, if there should be Italian CAS, that would be SM.79 or Stukas. M16 Sahariano was only a prototype and never served in Armed forces.

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Well. In Stalingrad the Germans did participate on their own but with the help of Romania, Hungary and Italy too. Also the Land-Lease Act allows the usage of British and American guns for the Red Army.

Let me dream pls :smiley:

Only Romanians and Croatians fought in city, and that was in very end when they were surrounded. If there would be minor Axis, that would be Fall Blau, and that is not a Stalingrad.

Only weapon they used were Thompsons, and they didn’t really liked it. There could be tanks like M3 Stuart and M3 Lee, but those were fighting on Don front, not in city.

well, yes, but actually no.

i’m cool with having italian divisions as half of them were italians, but i would not be " accurate " to replace germany,

for no reason at all.

i would like to see you having good time destroying churchills with m15/40s, M15/42s and/or merely an armored car with a 37mm on top.

so, no. that’s out of question.

not to mention, we barely have enough weapons to make a campaign out of it.

M15/42 were never in Africa and it has 47mm.
Semovente 75/18 can kill Churchill with its HEAT shells.
Churchills there were in few numbers and were worst version, if it will be in Tunisia, it will be infantry food imo.

But to the point, i want Italians there, but as i already said in multiple threads, i want them in first half or at least half of campaing to be Italians, but there has to be Germans as CAS is Italy weak side.
Weapons are not a problem and most of them is better than British in reality. Early tanks can be Italians as well, as first British tanks will be Stuarts or Crusaders and those are easy food for Italian tanks and SPG. Later in campign there will be stronger tanks for Allies, but for Axis too.

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Nope, that was Stalingrad. Only Germans in Moscow.

As far as I know only Croatians, 369 reinforced IR as part of 100 Jäeger division. Some Romanians were probably pushed in city after Soviet broke trough and enveloped

Yep, thats what i mean, just few soldiers, nothing big as division or something.

They could have called the campaign Barbarossa and have so much more posibilities :thinking:

Oh. Thanks for the correction.

By this logic, we should have the French, New Zealand, Greek factions on the allied side as well. But let us not forget that when we talk exclusively about the Tunisian campaign, but not about the African campaign in general, it should be noted that it was the German forces that played a key role in Tunisia.

But - such a thing is possible only with the introduction of the sub-factions.

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And i would honestly like to see all Allied nations that were in Tunisia.

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I cant get it why i cant recruit reinforcements of italian origin insted of germans , italian divisions should have italian troops .