Increase the protection of the PZ-ZIF-20 armor

I woke up in a trench - the shooting had stopped. The guys said: “A mine exploded on you.” I had a cuirass, a quilted jacket and a greatcoat on top. Well, the whole greatcoat on my back was torn to shreds, and there wasn’t a scratch on me. And Malyshev’s right leg was torn off. Why didn’t you wait until nightfall? The company commander himself told us: “As soon as you’ve done your job, crawl away immediately. Otherwise, you’re finished. The Germans will crawl up and kill you.”

A prop?

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G.K. - Was the brigade considered “armored”?

A.S. - All OSHISBs were “armored”, but the “armored” cuirasses, or as they called them then - “steel breastplates” or “armored shields”, were worn by soldiers only during combat, and even then, not always. In a normal front-line situation, these light cuirasses were in vehicles, in the battalion rear.

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A greatcoat was put on top of the shell, and on the belt of each soldier there were two cartridge pouches, a bag with two RGD grenades, a small sapper shovel, and a knapsack on the shoulders, in which, in addition to various belongings: foot wrappings, linen, toiletries, each had 120 cartridges and a pot. And on the feet – felt boots. And only then, a white camouflage suit was put on all this: loose white trousers and the same loose jacket with a hood and a gauze net curtain on the face. And it was in such an attire that we went out to tactical exercises every day at dawn.

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perhaps the requirements were set so that protection was carried out at ± real combat distances
, for example, the average range of combat for snipers could be 400 meters, and given that no sniper would aim his head, in such cases the protection could work (unlikely, but the above data were on armor penetration with a direct hit, and this rarely happens)
when During the offensive, machine gunners also opened fire at a distance of up to 400 meters, and in such cases, a bullet that did not pass at a right angle could get stuck in the armor.
At least the defense gives a chance to launch an offensive with a greater chance, and then the advantage of the Soviet infantry in the numerical advantage of the SMG compared to the German ones will be decided.

it would also be necessary to find out how the German SMG was used, maybe this also influenced the fact that the armor was suitable for use or not suitable

Even germans do have a armor during a combat

IDK why it still aint add:

Speaking of the PPSh! I’ll never forget one incident. I believe that in Hungary, we encircled a German unit by occupying a crossroads of three highways on the outskirts of a village. As if under a spell, they marched towards this crossroads, straight into our machine guns. By nightfall, when the fighting had subsided, I was assigned to a combat patrol. Suddenly, I saw a frost-covered “freak” riding a horse with a mortar tied to the back. I give you my word of honor, I put 71 rounds into him with the PPSh. (The PPSh’s drum magazine holds 71 rounds. Note: S.S.). As a matter of fact, I put 71 rounds into him. And he’s sitting there, not a care in the world! Well, look at this shit… I tear the second disc, grab the horse by the reins. He sinks to one side, slides off the saddle, and falls face-first into the snow. Thank God, he’s down. But I forgot to tell you.…

"Wait, wait, wait. What happened to him?

  • Huh? Yes, he had something like a bulletproof vest. Back then! Can you imagine? And the second case was when we were already fighting our way out of the encirclement in the same Hungary. The wounded are carried in the middle of the column, on the sides of the

ADD BODY ARMOR TO AXIS
Does some wehrabroo cant look in archive its photos? Or only me?

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That’s my point that on paper ussr had one of the strongest armies on earth, and a rant does not make it inaccurate. The t34 on paper is equal to a Sherman in reality it is cramped missing half the pieces a tank needs. I see this curias being little different with some being of high quality and other far less so. See I until we get rng quality of a mechanic I say we take the median quality we have in game. That is between the best examples o n paper and in field and the worst that no doubt existed

Even here I place a memories about armor of infantry, recon, also have artillery personal memories about armor plates.

Well During WW 2 USSR had the strongest army on earth. It was supplied by the biggest economy on the world United States of America.

No they had the biggest army on earth, we can argue about which ground forced would win alone but with a better navy and Air Force the US is stronger able to land at will and gain air supremacy, though they were the second strongest. Followed third by uk then Japan than Italy.

Well you can see the fight between USSR and Japan and USSR and Germany and compare it with the western allies. You will realize USSR manage to conquer faster much more land then western allies could. Simply USSR had the strongest army on earth even during operation untrickable US acknowledged that they cant win a war against Soviet Union since they didn’t had the man power. US had the most versatile army since they could operate on every part of the world but they could not challenge on their own or Invade USSR or Nazi Germany since this nations had very big land army.

You mean the fight in which much of japans forced ran or surrendered only suffering low tens of thousands casualties. You mean land that was mostly open terrain with few cities to defend from. Yes similar to the vast territories the soviet’s lost to the Germans in the early part of the war. You mean the Japanese army that by that point had little in the way of tanks planes and heavy guns. 11.5 is Vs 12.5 million ussr I say they had the man power. The US sent what it had to once us landed in Normandy the war was over in short order

400k deaths 700k wounded most Air Force isay the US fought the smart war . 27 million dead half it country wrecked allying with Hitler us I choose you. And again the army never fights alone coin toss for best army. But almost none existent navy and easily a second best air force ask the Germans how that ends up. No they could not win a war with the for ed they had in Europe which was hardly everything they had. It was a statement that if ussr chose to match on Paris they could not stop the . Not that in the full end of time they could not with all forces marshalled defeat the ussr.

They lacked major forward airbases, supply and repair basses marshaling yards ect. While the ussr had been building them as they went. The forces used to crush the German front had been deemed enough for that. Germany was being attacked on two fronts so they brought an army big enough to win. If the ussr had become the enemy they would have waited till they had a Soviet cracking for e. Maybe even made peace with Japan and attacked from two fronts. Again Soviet army amazing Soviet Air Force not so much

Well you don’t know nothing about Manchuria for sure hope the devs make maps for this campaign so people can learn about it more.

You mean let the Soviets Fight the war. What was the last war US won ? Cuz World war 1 was won mainly by France and World War 2 mainly by USSR.

If ussr fought ww2 abd us supplied arms what did uk and the Commonwealth due cheer them on.
I might give the ussr Europe but what about Africa and Asia sorry but the war was already over in Asia by the time ussr joined just like the ussr did not need us uk to take Berlin the US did not need ussr to take tokyo. So the only way you’re statement that ussr fought ww2 is true is
WW2 was a war fought in Europe Africa Asia and the Japanese and Italians as well as the British were not important. We won the Korean war and many middle eastern wars as well as the American revolution the war of 1812 the Spanish American war

The French won WW1 you mean the war they won by standing in place until America showed up.

Well you should learn history France really won the world war 1 since they did the most of the fighting. When America joined the war was already won by France and UK.

Was a stalemate to this day against a China a country that didn’t even had strong industry. You should see US had better air force ,better tanks and better equipment and could not win against China just look at the history. Really you cant invade a nation with bigger population then you and expect its gonna be some victory. Even if you win will be hard to manage so no one exactly won the Korean war but it showed that quantity can easily challenge quality.

I just find it funny you insult the Italians who mainly fought the US and uk and only sent small forces to fight the ussr. Funny how the French only went in the offensive when the American showed up. Also insulting the uk again if ussr won the war us armed the allies that leaves nothing for the uk to have done. Germany only surrendered because the US entered ww1. The German offensive would have crushed the thin line of British and franch soldiers. Repeatedly the US gets shade for joining the war on two fronts 2 years late. What does the ussr get for joining the Asian front 5 years late. Or allying themselves with the devil himself and attacking the neutral nations of Finland and Poland. The best thing the ussr did in the early part was die in large numbers.

I demand you to stop

Well UK was losing the war against Germany thats not a secret. Without US and USSR UK was finished. And the Italians fought in USSR ,Hungarians and many more nations. Only US and USSR had resources and population to stop Germany. UK is not a world power for a long time. Like all monarchies monarchism is finished.

You are reducing the war from six major powers us uk ussr and Italy Germany Japan to ussr us Germany if that is true then ussr did win ww2

I completely agree. Cuirasses for the Axis sound like a good idea.
We need the Sappenpanzer in Axis customization

And yes, Sappenpanzer already in editor.

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It will also be possible to create some kind of event/premium squad for the Germans with captured Soviet body armor.

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Just remove German nation. That’s what all Stalinist fanatics want ain’t it? They will be chasing ghosts and sometimes shoot at each other after they will develop paranoia and schizophrenia

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