I thought the goal was not P2W

Destroying the tires on the Ba-11 immobilizes it

Completely? Afaik it could still somewhat move, just like Puma can now.

If you get both front wheels blown off you’re pretty fucked. You can MAYBE drag the front end, but it’s slow as shit.

It cannot be frontally penetrated by the T-60, aka the tank 99% of players use on the Soviet side rn.
If you thought pre-nerf Pz2 was bad, this is 10x worse.

This 100%
You’re invincible on all sides to the T-60

Poor T-60, what did it do to ever deserve this
In CBT it was getting tortured and torn apart by PzIIC and somehow got a nerf to its reload time, and now its dealing with something with 30-50mm armor with its 27mm of pen

Maybe by the end of OBT T-60 will just become a meme of this game, like Tachanka in R6S

not even the sides either, cause Pz38tF has a flat 30mm side and T-60 only has 27mm of pen (at least to my knowledge, pretty sure it does not use the 32mm-pen ammo)

You’ll never get that 32mm pen anyways. You will never be at 10m perfectly flat. Generally 50-150m engagements are the norm here.

Well it is probably still better than the current 27mm tho?

Okay thats pretty bad. I was thinking it was an earlier pz 38 with less armor

Nah it’s the F. The big, big F.

It will be an anti infantry reconnaissance behiculo haha ​​and its HE does not matter.

Die heroically.

Come on dude, being able to bring heavy tanks before anyone can even penetrate them into game early is not P2W? Wake up.

Paying to get later stuff that everyone can unlock isn’t inherently P2W.

Heavy tanks that cannot be penetrated are just dumb OP shit that need to be nerfed/removed regardless of whether you paid to unlock them early, or grinded through go unlock them later.

Mind you, later down the line we will get new players and they will fight against full squads of FG42s and or Jumbos in Normandy once the general playerbase gets those. People didn’t pay for those so it cannot be pay to win.

Doesn’t make them any less stupid, but it’s not the same as the Pz38tF and BA-11 that are actually pay to win.

Jumbo/FG-42 are balance issues. Not P2W issues. I would still solve them with nerfs/removal though, similar to if they were actually P2W.

I Did not played Battle of Moscow Yet so i can’t tell how op it is but i would be more balanced to change 38(t) to 35(t) Ba 16 is armored car while 38(t) is Full Tank with Good Armor particularly Ausf F. I Saw Ida to Change PzKpfw III Ausf. B to 38(t) but in my opinion 35(t) fits this role much better

Nah the Pz38tF only has to be changed to the Pz38A model. Pz35t would be a too weak, it is worse than the Pz3B, while the Pz38tA would be between the Pz3B and Pz3E in armor, but smaller and faster.

BA-11 has the issue that the vehicle is mostly empty on the inside, so no matter where you shoot, it is very unlikely for you to damage it. Pz38tF is similar, but instead of not getting damage, you will just not penetrate it in the first place.

For your reference about how OP it is:
They do not lose out in mobility compared to the other tanks and have the second best gun available for the other tanks, while having basically the best survivability.

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I can Agre with Change to 38(t) Ausf A it has 30mm Armor if i remember correctly. it would be balanced it gona get same armor as III Asuf E and Better cannon then III E because it is (premium)
About 35(t) it is not worse then III B because it have 25mm armor while III B has Only 14 and 35(t) have Low Speed Stabilization.

I’ll double check in a bit as I am logged into war thunder rn, but I think it was 25mm, which would be balanced out by its smaller size and higher mobility.

Uh no. Both guns are identical. No need to go P2W.

Both have 14.5mm armor. One is smaller, but the other has a second machine gun.

Which isn’t implemented on the Sherman ingame so I don’t think that matters.

I didn’t know that it is not implemented

i did not mean to go P2W i just pointed that Czech 47mm Has Little More Pen and Damage than German 37mm

This is a useful advantage. if i can ask are they planning to make hull MG’s Usable?