HMG for all engineers

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With all the arty spam nerfed, planes have been the new form of arty spam lately where infantry almost has nothing to counter it(don’t tell me this shoot it with a rifle as that is still not easy or Flakvierlings that are locked on engineer squads). Instead of nerfing planes, what about give our engineers something that can actually fight planes by building HMGs not locked to dedicated engineer squads. Soviets can have DShK while US can have M2 Browning .50 Cal and Germany get MG34 or MG42 on tripod.

It’s so annoying that there are people who fly on planes the entire game and we couldn’t do anything about it as nobody know how to fly and only few times the team use a plane to shoot them down instead of doing CAS too as if they have a non aggression pact or something.

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shooting planes down with rifles was actually doable in CBT.

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I was in a Stuka and saw I think an AA firing at me I just headed right for it and dropped some bombs. It wounded me a little bit but I was able to keep flying - I flew straight and level right at it until I got to where I thought bombs away … kind of silly.

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Even if it wasn’t for anti-air, that would be nice actually. I know there’s already MG nests (mysteriously locked away for Engineers until you get Engineer II) but HMGs and MMGs would be a welcome addition. Should be made available as a build option for Engineer I class and can be built as a weapon mounted on something as well as stand alone weapon on its own dedicated mount like a heavy tripod. Basically expanding on the concept of the MG nest build option for Engineers and doing it properly with the correct guns for each side, more unlockable HMGs and MMGs and allowing the Engineer to build them as a standalone HMG/MMG gun emplacement like how they were deployed in real life, as well as an option to built/mount on sandbags/surfaces separately. At the same time it should replace the MG nest build option and be available for Engineer I. Engineer II gets faster build speed perk and more build resources instead.
Weapon suggestions:

  • US: M1919A4, M2 browning
  • Germany: Maschinengewehr Schwarzlose M. 7, MG08, MG42,
  • Soviets: PM M1910, SG-43 Gorunov, DShK 1938, DS-39 (gold)
  • British Empire: Vickers machine gun
  • Italians: Fiat–Revelli Modello 1935, Breda M1937 or M1938, Breda Mod. 5C (gold)
  • French (eventually probably): St. Étienne Mle 1907, Hotchkiss Mle 1914, Hotchkiss M1929/Mitrailleuse de 13.2 mm CA mle 1930
  • Japan: Type 1, Type 3, Type 92, Type 100
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Introducing a weapon class against planes that is better against infantry in order to reduce the pain of troops seems a double edged sword. At least how I see it.

I’d suggest improving AA against planes, and releasing it to the public domain. i.e. all squads. (Planes should actually get killed when shot at and make it turn faster.)

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I finally shot down not 1 but 2 planes with a AA. But like Speirs said I have had more then 1 come right at me and own me.

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iv brought this up before that 1st engineers should be able to build a mounted MG placement and Grenade Crates, AT/AA guns should be reserved for a mechanized squad unit with light vehicles Engineer rework and New Squad: Mechanized Light Vehicle Unit idea for the full suggestion

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I unironically think I’ve been shot down by a dude with a shotgun, a few days ago.

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I like that idea but it does not look like a short-term painkiller. We need something within a month I think. :stuck_out_tongue:

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i liked the idea of have a HMG, but don,t get the point of being a AA weapow. still, people used to shoot the slow planes (compared to jet fighters today) whit machine guns. will we get then in a machine gun next? i mean sandbags around it. because it war what is donne.

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ZPU-4 seems to be something like that:

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has i always love to say, COUTER IT, not nerft it.

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it deserves a nerf

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How about GPMGs for engineer 1 and HMGs for engineer 2?

US: M1919 and then M2HB
Russia: Maxim and then DShK 1938
Germany MG34/42 (depending on campaign) and then uuuuuuuuuuuuh is there an infantry mount for an MG 131? MG 271(f)?

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not necessary couter it whit alerdy equipement in game, Devs can give some new ways to defeat planes.

to me, it,s more interesting that actualy nerf it.

anyway opnion is like asshole, everone have one. noboby pleases everone.

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still is, i shot down 2 il 2 s the other night in the mascow campaign. also shot down a few stukas in berlin campaign with the ppsh

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that may have been a gun in use in russia but im pretty positive that’s just 4 vickers cannons in a chicago piano setup

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Yeah those are Maxim guns. jfc.