This just makes you look really bad. Yes there is the ‘PC Master Race’, but that is because a PC is just objectively better for everything, it isn’t simply a gaming platform now with some media controls, it enables you to do literally whatever you want and upgrade at your own will one component at a time. The Master Race stuff is about that, not that PCs are inherently better for gaming though the experience is arguably better since you have better customisability.
But generally PC gamers are happy to have people playing on console, we just love people playing games and want a community, hence crossplay etc.
Your rant screams of an inferiority complex like many console gamers unfortunately despite it being your choice and not that different.
What you wrote: “Make crossplay optional.” (input device toggle → good idea btw.)
What I wrote: Making crossplay with PC optional is what everybody would benefit from, because it’s up to them to decide.
You’re right. Guilty as charged. But just to be clear: Crossplay itself is not the issue here. (I had it activated the majority of the time it was in the game. Also my brother is on PC and we were planning on playing the game together, too.) What IS an issue is statements like “well just get m&k then”, “can’t beat 'em, join 'em” or simply “bruh, gid gud”. There have been enough examples throughout multiple threads. Statements like these are as little a help as my rant above.
Apologies to @19945606 who got it as a direct reply, and to everyone who I offended!
They’re not saying “just get m&kb”. They’re saying ADD m&kb support. Because both piss5 and sexbox don’t have it.
Also git gud is a very valid response and only bad players get upset about it.
Gitten gudden
All good now, I get it, that what’s @19945606 meant. Apologies again!
But:
“Dude he doesn’t even have to buy a PC, just a mouse and keyboard since the new consoles support them.” (Cross platform between PC and consoles - #28 by 10274996)
Your own words. Sounds like “just get m&kb” to me. Just saying…
It is.
But they don’t have support, which I didn’t know at the time.
There was one person in that screenshot that was on console. You didn’t seal club any console players.
Lmao just shows you don’t know how the game works, all of the people without marks near them are the same platform as me and you can see I am from xbox, what means there was one PS guy in this game 
I see what you were saying. Thought this was a pic prior to removing crossplay.
Has nothing to do with how to game works. Gamepad on pc means console player. Haven’t played on console so didn’t know it shows gamepad for other system. Has nothing to do with how the game works.
This might have already been mentioned elsewhere, but there is a simple way (on console, guess it applies for PC too) to figure out if you are playing bots or real players: Just go to the scoreboard mid-game (switch to “Interactive mode”) or after the match and click on any name. If there is a prompt to “Report” a player, it’s an actual player. If there is no prompt, it’s a bot. Of course, the names with a symbol are real players from another platform.
Chances are that most of the names in the screenshot above are bots, who are (sadly?) not clearly identified as those.
A lot of them are probably bots due to the much smaller playerbase on console, which was the reason to force crossplay to begin with, which has always been the main argument to keep crossplay, which has been told over and over to the console players by the PC players. The console players replied that they didn’t care about a few more bots in their matches as long as it was balanced, but you can see what happened with that lol.
Gotta love the outcry for the removal of crossplay, only to have outcry to return it right after it got removed.
Ofc the solution is to make it optional, but the devs should be working on that by now if they actually intend to make it optional instead of on/off, so I doubt there is much value in further discussing this.
Edit: sorry for unintended reply.
PS5 and XBOX are both underpowered PCs. They already have K/B & Mouse support. Crossplay is possible now BECAUSE all the hardware is AMD. Those consoles are built using PC parts now. Keyboard and Mouse support is basically built into the hardware. You (developers) just have to enable it in the game.
That’s thanks to a new FAQ from Sony, which says: “Yes, USB and Bluetooth keyboards and mice are supported at a system level, though game developers will decide whether to support at a game level,” writes senior director Sid Shuman of Sony Interactive Entertainment.
You can play with a mouse and keyboard if your game supports it. First, plug the mouse and keyboard into the USB ports on the Xbox One. Next, go to the Settings menu and select Kinect & Devices, at which point you’ll have options for swapping button mapping and configuration the pointer speed of your mouse .
Nah console players stay away from pc players but if they bring crossplay back give us an option to turn off crossplay.
They have been built on AMD hardware for this generation and the one before it (xbone and ps4). PS4 and Xbox one were built using a laptop tier APU and were underpowered shit.
Sexbox and PS5 actually have a decent setup and honestly aren’t underpowered at all this time around thank god.
Definitely not underpowered, even the Series S is more powerful than your average gaming PC if steam hardware surveys are anything to go off of.
I’ve been wanting a Series X, so the ability to enable crossplay would be nice for me.
that is a hilarious statement. You do realize that Steam Hardware survey’s include the Intel iGPU built into most desktop computers? Your “Average Gaming PC” can run circles around a console in most cases. Consoles hold their own on console optimized games that are optimized for their hardware. If the latest generation of consoles can play Arma 3 at 1080p or 1440p with a stable framerate of 60 or better, then I will accept your notion that they are better than the “Average Gaming PC”. Consoles are still using essentially APUs. Once consoles get user-replaceable GPUs, then they will be on par with custom built gaming rigs. Even my 11 year old “Gaming” PC (who really builds a PC just for gaming?!) can still curbstomp consoles in most titles as long as Im not playing at 4k. 1440p is where I play at. The only thing I have upgraded over the years in the GPU and that was one time.
Steam hardware surveys give a list of hardware, not “average performance”
That being said, what the hardware survey showed is that gaming PCs currently still tend to have GTX 1060s and RX 580s as the majority, so the Series S exceeds those.
Dude Arma 3 runs like turboshit even on good PCs if you’re running anything other than Vanilla. It is a horrible metric for PC hardware or console hardware