Give the Panzer IV APCR to counter the Churchill VII

Well, I was talking about standard tanks. It’s funny that most of the time the Sherman 105 can’t destroy the PZ3.

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there is some rng involved, but shooting at the turret usually gets the job done.

It depends partly on the updates, in each update they do a sabotage on the Sherman 105 and Japanese navy short gun HE.

Panzer IV can’t take BR4 allied tank while most allied ones useless against Panther or Tiger, it’s semi-OK. BR4’s biggest advantage ;).
But German BR3 need a tank with enough armor, as Panzer IV armor is quite weak.
German KW-1 is too much, Stug 42 would be nice. Or some Italian tank destroyer or assault gun?

Nah Churchill VII is already a weaker jumbo
No need to add more threat for it

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Ive had my posts closed on the firefly.

Still BR V

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Actually, I think it would be better if more reasonable tanks were introduced in the future. Because at present, the BR system in the game has basically become complete. : BR4/5.7-6.0, BR5/6.3-6.7. BR3 only needs to introduce some more tanks for both sides to make up for the current imbalance of these tanks.

Can’t we just give that Churchill the good old jumbo treatment, put it in br3 then say:

Just flank it, bro

It worked for a looooong time with Jumbo so why not? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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well jumbo at least has an “unstable nuclear reactor” as an ammo rack and MG port weak spot that even BR1 tanks can penetrate…

I suspect that Churchill will be overall more reliable, but in return have generally worse stats.
playing with Panzer IV is already a pain because every allied BR3 tank seems to one hit kill it all the time - especially KV1, but more BR4 vehicles that cant be dealt with… yeah fun…

I always defended Panzer IV “kinda” sucking, because in return it had enough pen to take on most BR4 and even most BR5 vehicles - but since uptiering to BR5 doesnt exist anymore Panzer IV has lost this “glass canon role”, the gun is not bad of course by any means, but in a direct fight against targets that dont die in one shot, having no survivability usually means game over.