Yeah… Still don’t get how the Germans have air force, especially CAS in Berlin but game is game.
The 500kgs are way too powerful and should be nerfed/replaced with bombs similar to the 100kgs of the IL-2 the me-410 wasn’t even a CAS plane iirc it was bomber hunter/night fighter/heavy fighter
Not to talk about how german fighters get basically bomber bombs (looking at you me-109 G-6) when the counter fighters get hand grenades (looking at the 100lb bombs) and the counter fighters were used for CAS way more…
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Its funny how german pilots talks about historical accuracy and want some proof what other nations used their planes.
Actually it would be nice see some proof what nukes luftwaffe actually used while defending berling…
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24.8. 1944 at 12:17
Attack on the Pardubice airport and Fanto refinery:
Droop-Snoot marker lightning from the 306th FW plunged two 500lb bombs into one of the tanks in the refinery, which were created a point of focus for the others.
Well, Lets take Kuban as example Soviet Union lost like over 1000 planes while Germans lost about 40 me109s. Literately soviet planes were raining down from the sky!
The problem w/ the P-51 is that they gave us the P-51C, which is ho-hum. I’d have preferred either an earlier model P-51 with its 20mm Hispano cannons, or a P-51D with its eight 50-caliber machine guns. I’m not 100% certain the D-model was in service prior to D-day, though.
Well for one, the D was at D-Day. For two, it only had 6 fifties.
The plane with 8 was the P-47.
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The only P-51 that had cannons was a P-51 designed and made for the RAF. Adding that would only result in the plane being horribly outclassed by everything the germans have.
I am not sure why they opted for Ju188 and Bf110 on German side. There were so many allied fighters in the air that it is a death sentence for any twin-engine German fighter or bomber to be in the air.
If they just used what Germans actually had on on Normandy we would have no problems like this.
And I am talking about is Schlachtgeschwader 4 which were flying the FW190 F and G versions. F version is present in WarThunder, so no problem with that. I am aware that it could carry 1000 kg bomb, but I am not advocating for this as it would be too powerful. On long range missions they normally carried 1 250kg or 1 500kg bomb and sometimes 4 50kg bombs under the wings. For balancing reasons i would opt for 250kg and that’s it, problem solved. As Germans have only one airplane in the air, it can serve as a fighter, but is outclassed by P51 in pure fighter to fighter role.
The author of the video visited German war archives. Really nice channel actually, watch it yourselves.
And yeah, I agree P47 would be much better suited to counterbalance what Germans now have.
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I’d like the Fw190F-8 with the 1000kg bomb but from my experience in WT with it and how easily 100kg bombs blow you out of the air, it wouldn’t be a good fit. The 500kg or 250s and some 50s would be mint
For balancing reasons I think 1000kg is too much. You could obliterate half of map with it.
And, as said, it could only be used at short range. Germans placed their airfields deeper into France for obvious reasons, so 250 kg and 4 50 kg could be reasonable. Same as P47 as it had to fly from England.
Except England to Normandy is an extremely short flight. Even a fully loaded P47 could easily get anywhere in Normandy in 30 minutes taking off from Britain. I still don’t think the P47 should have more than 500 lb bombs though for balance purposes
I’ve bugged the P-38 multiple times in War Thunder with all types of supporting documentation as well as have multiple other people. I’ve even included actual mission reports in North Africa where they were bombing in. They out right refuse to give it bombs for some reason.
P-38’s as standard issue had bomb pylons from the F model forward and were even added to prior models.
http://sidiros.net/Images/P38/BombsRockets/P-38E%20FOI-bombs.JPG
http://sidiros.net/Images/P38/BombsRockets/NorthAfrica1943.JPG
http://sidiros.net/Images/P38/BombsRockets/13_zps43870505.jpg
http://sidiros.net/Images/P38/BombsRockets/p38%20bombs.jpg
http://sidiros.net/Images/P38/BombsRockets/p38-25.jpg
http://sidiros.net/Images/P38/BombsRockets/bomber1.JPG
http://sidiros.net/Images/P38/BombsRockets/500_800_Bomb.jpg
http://sidiros.net/Images/P38/BombsRockets/P-38loaded71FS.jpg
It’s even in the manual…
http://sidiros.net/Images/P38/BombingInstructions.jpg
I have more documentation, load charts, and video… I’m kind of a P-38 fanatic; however, I doubt they’ll give the 38 the bomb love.
edit-images didn’t come through
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yes they should add P-47 to Normandy
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This is only partially correct. P47 did have good range, but only with fuel tanks! If bombs are strapped, no fuel tanks.
Here is a picture that shows you the range of P47 in 1943 without fuel tanks. I must admit, this is at escort altitude so they had to climb a lot, not as much if you are going to CAS mission in Normandy, but bombs counterbalance this. As you can see, its not that great. When you load it with bombs, its even less.
Here is a whole video on the matter:
Guy knows his stuff so if you have time, watch it.
Except for the fact that Salisbury to all of Normandy is under 175 miles…Within the maximum range of 230 miles stated. Trust me I did my research too
I see that I am not talking to a noob, we are just discussing, please do correct me if I am wrong 
But again, I think you are again talking about range without loadout or?
This loadout could, I least I think, be ok:
And for the FW190 F8:
Going off that 230 (which would still allocate sufficient fuel for combat time) it should still be fine since ordnance would be only carried one way and I doubt the plane would be burning twice the fuel unless fully equipped with its maximum payload, which I am definitely not going to advocate for in Enlisted.
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Yeah, I agree.
Ether way, we agree F8 and P47 would be much better choice for that particular campaign. Guess we will see in the future if devs will listen to community more than their colleagues from WarThunder.
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The P-47 can carry a centerline external fuel tank in addition to the wing hardpoints for bombs and rockets
Yeah, I am aware of it. But as far as I remember, they only strapped 1000 lb bombs to wings.
I am not sure about the HE filler in these, but those would be similar to 500 kg German bombs. And then you have it again, rant about US air force being to powerful, OP so on. Some sweet spot regarding balance has to be considered.
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