This is good suggestion.
More new campaigns = Reduced Lifespan of Enlisted
Enlisted is currently in open ‘beta’. This is only chance to change this system.
Pacific is must be last campaign.
we need to turn the campaign system into a tech tree system.
The campaign system is not suitable for f2p games.
If they make this suggested change, there’s no reason why they couldn’t add more campaigns, but without it 6 is the limit, if not more than is sustainable
Darkflow seems to be the kind of company that does sweeping changes to the core part of the game seemingly randomly so I wouldn’t rule this one out either.
Yes, it is. However, money and work in hands are limited. If they keep releasing new campaigns, we won’t be able to expect any changes about system.
Because I think the change to techtree is going to be a very big change.
I mean they do overhaul, improve, and add new stuff little by little over time even as they release big content drops. For example, the graphics for tanks, explosions, fire, etc released with the Pacific
Yes, but there are too many important things to improve. Server issues, system issues, balance issues, etc.
These have been delayed for a long time.
Of course, the developer’s development ability is very impressive. But sometimes they don’t seem to grasp what’s important.
Pretty slick i guess?
I could be interested in a general system overhaul, but I will say that I really like the core campaign system, but I like the recent changes they seem to be going with the Pacific as a start
They decided to have the Pacific campaign cover the entire war from early to late, that way if players wanted some Pacific action they don’t have to choose between 5 different Pacific campaigns. I understand why they did this with the Pacific.
Some future campaigns I imagine we’ll get and would love to see are Market Garden, Sicily+Italy, Battle of the Bulge, Siegfried Line (or push for the Rhine, Hurtgen Forest, Aachen, etc).
For the Eastern Front, maybe Leningrad, Caucasus, Late Soviet offensives, Kurks, Barbarossa, I’m sure there’s lots of other battles/ operations I can’t think of
Not even to mention future content we’ll be getting for the current existing campaigns eventually
i like the weapon customization and have different magazines as long there are advantages / disadvantages.
for example, removing a bipod on the B.A.R will make it lighter, and less " heavy " in the sway of the weapon. although will lose the accuracy bonus when deployed.
other examples would be, being able to change the MG34 sight with the AA one where some of the pre-war mg34 had.
( being allowed to change them. same goes for the ability between the thompson’s sights, as per total, there were 3 different sights type )
( or for example, being able to attach detach bayonettes with relatives advantages and disadvantages )
change scope cross ( as there were of different types ) and all that type of stuff.
but i do not like the changes to the tech tree nor unify campaigns.
reason being, me having unlocked a few stuff in berlin and almost everything ( except new airplane ) in normandy, but nothing in moscow & tunisia, how will that work?
what will i get to play?
last but not least, as immersion is getting far and far, i do not like to end up like WT being an arcady mess with italians weapons/forces in moscow where there were none.
( or panthers in tunisia… .)
Those are the Tech-Tree examples for each Faction, distinguished by the Timeline.
Early War Stage - Tier is From Pre-War to 1942, which includes the Battle for Moscow.
Mid War Stage - is From 1942 to 1943, Which includes Battle for Tunisia and Stalingrad.
End War Stage - is from 1944 to 1945, Which Includes Battle for Berlin and Normandy.
so… force people to start from moscow up to berlin just to get stgs and stuff?
no thanks.
campaigns have different gameplay between each other. you can’t really unify them and expect them to work.
MkB should not be a part of Moscow, did not exist during that time. I believe more campaigns should be added with this system you suggest, however each campaign has it’s own weapons that are allowed to be there, so things like the MkB (which existed months after the end of that battle) aren’t there, and all historically present, and plausible weapons are there.
Can you say the same about the new campaigns that will keep popping up in the future?
For example, if we have a total of 10 campaigns, we will have 10 separate campaign matches. With the exception of 2-3 of the most popular campaigns, the rest of the campaigns will have no people at all.
If we change to tech tree and allies vs axis matching, we can shorten it to at least 3-4 kinds of matching. Even if new weapons and new maps come out.
The campaign system is a very terrible plan in the long run.
When darkflow planned this game as a b2p game, the campaign system would have been a good fit. But now that it has changed to f2p, it doesn’t suit the game.
that’s kinda the point.
if people want to play a specific campaign, they go there instead of having to make double the grind just to get what they want.
i failed to see how is an improvement over the fun factor for someone that wants to play berlin / pacific and has to go through moscow, stalingrad, tunisia, normandy ( any campaign in between that will come in the future ) and then berlin / pacific.
but then would be your averange free to play of any kind.
that’s not what many people came here for.
it’s not like you restart from 0 ( i mean, 70 % you kinda do, but you can transfer weapons if needed ).
which, now that i think about it, enlisted is based on grinding. so, if you will not grind it here ( in the current way with campaigns on each and individual campaign), you will have to grind it in the tech trees as it will be pretty much like WT ( maybe 4 campaigns levels or more combined just for one of the tech tree… with fewer rewards… ). good luck unlocking latter gear for one faction. maybe in two years you’ll be able to reach it with the insane of grind that they will put in between one level and another.
for how much terrible it can be, it takes you “only” 5 months to complete one campaign without considering premium or boosters.
how much will it take for you with a tech tree?
i can tell you much more than 5 months.
and i don’t really know how beneficial it will be if we have also to throw the matchmaking factor.
we didn’t even managed to get one singular for campaign, and somehow you want them to do it for 6 campaigns all together.
it would simply be a different game that we will never know for it’s good and awefull points.
Congratulations, you’ve just put more effort into a single message than these developers put into the entire game. Incidentally, you’ve also just wasted your time… I’m sure you’ve seen similar threads pop up regularly since alpha and I’m sure you’ve seen what happens next. Nothing.
I feel like the earlier divisions in campaigns were too granular.
For instance, instead of having Moscow and Berlin separate, it could have just been everything that happened on USSR soil. Instead of splitting Normandy and Market Garden, have a campaign that focuses on conflict on French soil. Same for German soil, maybe Polish, Italian, North Africa, etc. Split the Pacific into two, Manchuria and Island hopping.
Then, after all that, have a tech tree for each nation in the game. Limit each theater by faction and equipment early/late for mm.
Not really, they could start up from Battle of normandy or berlin, but early war weapons. (Like MG34, G41 or MP40).
It is just a restriction, just to make you can’t go Moscow with panzerfaust and VG stuffs.
That’s why I made it a separate Techtree of other Axis/Annexed weapons. Since people mostly starts from German-Weapons to research, those Axis-Italian-Annexed Weapons would see less use. and Also, There already is Beretta 1918 and MAB 38 at Moscow.
That could be stayed by making Era Segmentation, which could make Each Campaign more… “distinguishable”.
Good suggestion to this game
I suggest to just remove the level tech tree like what they did in CRSED. which will save the game.
The Techtree system is good for adding new weapons as well as reducing repetitive work Breakthrough systems to be introduced when this game is beta
ah, i see.
then that would make it different.
guess it’s an alright for me then.
( even though… grind would exponentially increase because you know… ( p r O f I T )
this though… convince me less…
we know what we have, but changing to something that will become irreversible doesn’t sounds a good thing either.
given all the questionamarks and such
We can ‘test’ it in event form.
Whatever is suggested in this post or what Darkflow is planning, the system needs to change.
For now, it’s like a slow sinking ship.