Desertion

Caution: If you don’t like to read, then don’t even bother continuing forward:

As a solo-veteran player with over 3,300 completed matches, and 50 days of playing time, there’s no reason to consistently be playing against noobies with less than 100 matches completed. And the same applies to the entire spectrum of experience that this playerbase is composed of.

From the brand new players who just installed this game less than a month ago, all the way to the people who’ve been playing since it’s beginning… Everybody appears to be thrown into the same kettle, and it’s a complete shitshow.

-It’s not fun for new players to be stomped to death by veteran players who have maxed out gear, soldiers, and vehicles.
-Many veteran player do not enjoy being matched with a team full of new players who are still learning the fundamentals of the game. While the other team is composed of 6-10 gold ranking players.
-And it’s equally boring to be placed on a stacked team full of Gold ranks, and to be placed against a team that doesn’t even have a single gold ranking player. It’s a complete waste of everybody’s time, and hardly anybody earns any XP towards their career progression.

Is the excuse for the broken matchmaking, being that there “isn’t enough players for balanced games”?
Is the counter-argument: “Oh, the new BR progression system, and campaign merging is going to fix the problem”?

Without continuous game-lobbies that remain open for players to join, leave, and queue… then I’m not exactly sure how this new system is going to be successfully implemented. Not when there’s long list of bugs still withstanding that haven’t been fixed. And the lack of creativeness when it comes to new content that is applied in the form of new maps and game mode for players to enjoy. The consensus has been that a large percentage of players do not like the gamemode conquest, for reasons being that the this particular mode is a waste of time, and does not yield very much experience towards player-progression. Yet… no changes have been made for a very long time. As if everybody on the forum and elsewhere that have been expressing their complaints, have all been falling deaf ears.

Now let’s take a tour of the samples I’ve been accumulating for the past two weeks. I know how much everybody enjoys visuals and documentation :slight_smile:

First: Not interested in playing destruction with a bunch of noobies. And it’s a good thing I quit, because the other team was stacked.

Second: All noobies on my team, while the other team is probably going to spam paratroopers and zerg rush all the objectives. Bye!

Third: Not interested in playing Conquest with a bunch of noobies. Boring.

Fourth: By the third objective, six of my teammates had left the game. Why the hell would I stick around? It’s not like I need the experience when I’m maxed out.

Fifth: Here’s the postgame stats for Slide #4

Sixth: Not a single teammate with a gold rank. Bye

Seventh: Not even a 10 vs 10 when the game started. Not interested in playing with a team full of bots vs 5 experienced players. Bye.

Eighth: The only teammate with a gold rank had left the game as soon as he joined. Probably because it was Conquest. So I left too. What’s the point in wasting my time playing a lame game-mode?

Ninth: Nope

Tenth: Again. NOPE

Eleventh: And when I do decide to stick around, by the end of the match it I was wishing I had quit and looked for a new game.

Twelfth: Give me two other veteran players vs a team of noobies… and it’s going to be a slaughterfest.

Thirteenth: No thanks. You guys can play amongst yourselves. Have fun.

Fourteenth: Imagine that.

Fifteenth: Boring

Sixteenth: Predictable

Seventeenth: Noobies who are rage quitting after being stomped by a stacked team

Eighteenth: Nope

Nineteenth: If we could see the other team’s ranks while in the game, this match would have been a predictable slaughter.

Twentieth: No thanks. Have fun farming my team full of noobies. I can predict that match ended in less than 10 minutes.

Up until these last couple of months, I rarely ever quit. But the broken matchmaking has gotten out of hand. And now whenever I find myself on a team full of noobies, and/or Conquest, I simply quit and look for a better match.

Give me a few competent teammates who have experience with this game, and I’ll happily stick around and fight against stacked teams:

First: 184 engineering points FTW :upside_down_face:

Second: 43 minute meat grinder :sweat_smile:

Third: Engineer FTW

Fourth: Engineer :smiley:

Fifth: 14 vehicle kills (tanks and player controller aircraft)

Sixth: One veteran player vs a team full of noobies = Tiger tank = salughterfest

Seventh: I bet the other team was mad :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Anyways, feel free to share your own reasons for deserting battles.

How can this issue be solved? Or at least reduce the quantity of players who quit matches?

-New historical battlefields (to keep experienced and veteran players interested in the game)
-Better game modes
-Eliminate ugly game modes
-Fix the broken matchmaking, by implementing open and continuous lobbies that can be joined and exited at any given time. And allow players to queue up when they are wanting to join a specific lobby. This should be the standard for general gameplay because it’s obvious that the current system isn’t working.
-fix team communication and allow console players (solo players) to communicate with the team via their headset. (And a mute feature, to allow everybody to mute the annoying kids and weirdos)
-Fix the team communication wheel. We still don’t have an option to choose “yes” or “affirmative”. Also add more options to the wheel (take recommendations from other people’s suggestions/posts)
-Fix the AT launchers (they are very inconsistent)
-Fix the AA guns (they are significantly weaker than they used to be, and/or the RNG is heavily favoring the aircraft)
-Fix the gunner positions for JU-188 and BF-109. They don’t work, and there’s no point to use them while they are easy targets to shoot down.
-Fix the downward depression for Light-Machingun nests. We still can’t aim down, and can only shoot at a level surface/angle and at an upward impression (but not downward like you can with map-built MG’s and HMG’s)
-Add a lock-objective timer to Invasion game-mode, as a way to balance the issue with paratroopers deploying ontop of objectives the moment they move.
-Increase German paratrooper ammo capacity to balance that of the Americans. The VK and Thompson are vastly superior in strength and ammo capacity. Where I have found it’s very enjoyable to wipe out American Paratrooper squads and then pick up all of their Machine guns with 400 rounds of ammunition. (Meanwhile, the german FG II’s only get like 40 rounds? or is it 60? LOL!!!)


I absolutely slaughter people whenever I pick up this gun. It works great a close quarter hip firing, and short bursts at medium range. But unless it’s mounted, long range is a joke.

Lastly: To conclude this thought-out post, I’ve included a short clip from the Horrors of War




I’m super excited for this big BR progression system. It’s like being a passenger on the Titanic.
suicide-william-murdoch-titanic-r0panlffguasmqrs

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I do want option to turn off crossplay for PC players. There’s nothing worse than console players.
I think they should be seperated completely, they’re just limitation for PC potential. They’re making this game uglier + It’s extremely boring to play against them, they’re just not good enough.

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As a console player, I strongly disagree. There are just as many incompetent PC players as there are incompetent console players. And if your suggestion was implemented, you’d kill a large percentage of the player-base for all the people who are playing from an Xbox or PlayStation. Which means less money for DF, and a less quality product for the player-base.

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never had a problem with console players because of their ability. Scrubs are on all platforms.

I do have a problem when bullshit mechanics show up like in Warthunder when consoles can lock onto enemy players they haven’t seen and auto track through trees, mountains, rocks etc. In this instance Id gladly turn consoles off.

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Agreed. Auto-assist/auto-aim doesn’t belong in online gaming. If someone needs auto-aim, then they should strictly be playing against A.I.

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You really did sum everything up on why people desert on both sides like new players not having fun with getting stomped by veterans while veterans not having fun with noob teammates against stacked veteran teams. Since your screenshots are mostly Normandy, even with populated campaigns is still going to be really problematic with the matchmaking that even the merge and BR system is not going to fix the playerbase.

Hell even War Thunder had noobs in top tier especially with the option to buy a high tier premium vehicle.

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I don’t care about your disagreement. I just want freedom to choose if I want to play with console players or not. They are not worthy opponents to me.

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I hear you. But when money is the dominating factor in the decision-making process, it would be a poor decision to separate the player-base by the type of console/platform they are using.

The more they split everything up, the more they have to micro-manage each sector.

I don’t care. I would rather play against bots than console players. It’s more enjoyable.
I have never encountered a console player that’s better than bot.
But I don’t blame them, 30 fps gaming is harsh. Even with legal aimbot.

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Lying doesn’t build your argument :rofl: :rofl: :man_shrugging: :man_shrugging:

All I want is separated servers for console players. That’s pretty much essential for the health of the game. There’s literally nothing more important. This should be priority #1.

There’s no point to release this game on steam before this happens. Otherwise steam newbies would be still forced to play against 30fps gamers, making their experience with game very lackluster.

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Obviously, it was just troll reaction to this troll topic.
This user is well known troll here on forum. So I just acted like him for a moment.

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Wow

you have potential

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Wow, you don’t like when players leaving game without fighting?!

I absolutely agree with that one but apparently a majority of the communities think the Germans with the FG42 grenade launchers so powerful unlike A-100 round Thompson or vicar I could definitely storm an objective with FG42 with a 20 round magazine versus a nine man squad or seven man squad because my 20 round magazine is so powerful

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And knock it off there’s no reason for that sometimes he makes good points there’s no reason to call him a troll

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There is reason actually. He calls basically everyone who has different opinion than he has a troll.

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I guess you’re right but there’s no reason to call him troll and go down to his level When we start insulting each other we go nowhere we’re meant to have discussions Instead of insulting each other

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You are right. I do act childishly sometimes.

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Sums it up perfectly for me :rofl:

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