if Jumbos become lv30 it wont be M4A3E2 75mm
it will be E8 with BIG gun
then the balance for Panthers will be ruined, problem again. Final thought, just removing the grey zones or expanding the maps will solve pretty much everything. Another variant is just to make light tanks actually fast
Its also like saying shooting an t50 with an AT rifle to the front.
How ever you can lobb in the Pistol from quite a range. More then 200m so theres an option. Is it reliable noâŚbut its something better then the AT rifle 
How ever an BF110 will fix that issue for you quite good with its 37 and rockets But thats not what you where after thoughâŚInf and Tanks i guess early. Well PAK is an option to
well if the grey zones gone the map will be full of snipers. playing as axis is all about objective right? smoke nade for now and always.
better to have infantry snipers than 30ton machines with explosive rounds and machineguns snipers imo
if on d-day then you can always try to run up and det pack it since the gray zone isnât that deep, or you could use sturm if you are a flat broadside to it. If in pz4 go to 400 meters and try to snipe the cup., mg port or try to move in a way to overmatch the lower side armor but i recommend 400 meters since pz4s become immune to the jumbo while still being able to hurt them. Puma you could try to rush them down but you can also overmatch jumboâs lower side armor but needs a more shallower angle compared to the pz4s. If you want to take to the skies then the bf110 can be used against jumbo if you know what you are slightly doing
Your auto correct KNOWS which words you type oftenâŚ
Or you meant:
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same with the panther, whats your point?
bombs and rockets work well
A panther should deal with it
Panzerfaust if you have it
If itâs D-Day beach, youâre SOL but, otherwise to flank them is to kill them. Also the AT-guns are fantastic and underrated (judging by how often I see them employed). If you can get a good firing position, especially on their flanks, youâre all but guaranteed to kill them. Especially given that itâs so much easier to get to that position on foot surreptitiously than it is in a big lumbering tank that everyone and their grandmother is marking for death.
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the problem isnt that jumbo is OP/doesnt have counters, its that the counters are ineffective when the jumbo camps in the grey zone/are unlocked much later than the tank itself (bazooka at 30, panzer IV at i believe 13?). You have to almost exclusively rely on the jumbo being frontline or overextending to use most of the counters (same with panthers), and by level 25 most players have learned that getting close in tanks doesnt work out and stay as far back as possible lobbing HE into caps.
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I love jumbo threads like this. I canât decide to hop in my Jumbo and fuel the fire or spank them in the Panther A or drop bombs from a plane. Decisions but no worries here after devoting time to learn 
Angle your Panzer 4. Jumbo players will think youâre exposing your rear and they would rather shoot your chassis than frontal turret. it works for me everytime.
And to actually kill it ? like everyone always said, aim for the mg port even when the jumbo is angled you can still shoot the mg port.
Oh or you can force the jumbo out of the greyzone by spamming smokes
pz4s can also overmatch jumboâs lower side armor if jumbo tries to angle
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They can ? never thought about that, thanks for the information
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Right Iâm a US player and never have any issues with anything other then a panther