if you want to make a full rush squad in that way yes is the best gun, but you dont recall that gun dont make the people.
try with your squad of 7 soldier without losing at least half of it, when there is 20 trenched enemyes with fg42 and you cant do shit about because you have an smg that is maximum effective range is 10 meters.
You said it yourself. M2 is weaker than FG in that it takes 2 shots to down at up to 100 m then 2 shots to kill where as a max upgraded FG is 1 shot down 1 shot kill plus better sights and better recoil.
Therefore M2 should have a little more ammo to do it’s job properly as it requires it due to it’s lower damage and lower ranged effectiveness.
Buddy, I can’t believe you play equally for both sides, because the Axis game ends where the opponent has a pair of jumbos or a P47 in the air. More often than not, you can’t win matches like this unless the opponents are beginners.
Also talked about “oh my god fg 42 can shoot in bursts”, I’m not making up anything new, just repeating the words.
The M2 is in the rifle class because it is available to everyone, but the characteristics make it better than every SMG in the game. It used to be limited by idiotic recoil. However, remind me what the Axis got in return?
So either general rules or I want a gewehr kurz for every soldier and a P47 and jumbo analog. Shiivex himself said. that even before the allies were stronger and he won on them more often. So no, I don’t mind normal allied rifle, but I want a normal tank and plane, otherwise let’s all enjoy the bad stuff.
Lol that actually sounds kinda fun TBH I might try that. Assault squads are my favourite squads in the game when it comes to infantry. Now I can make 1 more with essentially M2s instead of SMGs
That’s it, the arguments on the characteristics are over, now you suggest that I look at the details.
My answer to you is that when my fg squad stands in the field, the American P47 and P38 make a rocket rain and the whole squad dies, in the air these two planes always destroy the German ones, so usually the allies attack the empty point. More questions?
“Dude, just use the pouches!!!” Why is it all of a sudden everyone is afraid for one extra magazine. Oh yeah, because it affects you.
The M2 will finish off the enemy in 1 shot, just like the fg, so it’s 2 shots with the fg and 3 with the M2.
Every bullet not hit with the fg is worth a lot more than with the M2, even with 60 vs 40 ammo.
Would it be hypocritical if all those who cried “9 men with fully automatic weapons” didn’t come here and stop you, because you already have the best SMG in Normandy, the Thompson. Of course that would be hypocrisy, but that’s the way people are built. Everything is for its own sake, so now 9 people with a fully automatic rifle is already okay.
we are talking of the potential and the utilization of the fg42 and the m2 carabine and the scenarios in both weapons are used. (note that i haven’t mention any mg, fg42 sniper, tanks, only this 2 gun)
as i stated previuosly, the m2 carabine is usefull only within 10/20 MAX and its not usuefull in alll the scenarios that are not close combat thus its a situational gun and not that you would give at your entire squad in NORMANDY.
the fg42 lacks an huge ammount of ammo but the cons stop there
In close combat I will have the semi-auto mode set, because at a distance of more than 20-30 meters it is better to shoot with it, and your M2 will burst into the room in full auto, you will have the advantage. I have to switch in order to compete. Also, every miss I make costs me more damage loss than yours.
I just don’t understand why the Axis still has to “just aim at 2 pixel jumbo” or tolerate missile spam. And allies now just get great weapons for medium to short range. Explain the reason?
you are missing the point that you need to arrive at the objective most of the time in an open field when your m2 is usefull as a m1911 that why i say that is usefull only in close comabt.
if this was berlin yes that would be an absoulte beast of smg in most of the maps, but this is normandy 85% of the combats are at more than 20 meters the m2 in this contest dont perform as good as the fg42.
and the fg42 will perform always better bc is a rifle even if with 40 round that mind you is 8/10 round more than all the other rifle in normandy is ultimatley a semi auto rifle good from short/medium/long distance.
At short ranges if you hit your leg or arm with an fg, you need a second shot. With the M2 it is ALWAYS two shots. In close combat the M2 is better than the fg.
I’ll say it again, what are you so afraid of for 1 magazine? Because it now concerns you? “Just get the pouches” What’s the problem? Why do you stubbornly defend.
I play a lot of Normandy and it’s easy to avoid long range combat there. Besides, the allies just need to mop up points, it doesn’t make sense for them to shoot in the distance. If you are not allowed to the point - P47 or jumbo quickly remove the opponents.
Here’s another person who agreed about the ammo.
I don’t mind normal allied weapons, but then let the Axis have non trash tanks and planes. An experienced Allied team will always win because of air superiority, that’s stupid to deny.
Everything is worth talking about in context, as you said, which is why I’m talking about in the context of American vehicles.
i just disagree i sincerely dont think that the m2 is something good i prefer having a full stack of garand they are at least more realiable than question if you can arrive in the effective range of the m2.
I personally think that the overall lethality of the M2, as a gross estimation of ROF * damage / (dispersion + recoil) is still lower than most semiautos, thus justifying the higher ammo count.
Yet, should its ammo supply be nerfed, I’ll deal with it and make do with engineers and large pouches, just like with any other weapon.
And/or ditch most of them for trusty, ever useful old Garands
You have no reason to use fg in full auto, and M2 does, so the ROF will be higher with M2.
I’m glad if it’s not a problem for you, take the pouches and you’re fine, just since everyone doesn’t consider it an inconvenience on fg, you should be willing to play it that way yourself.
