I really don’t get your reasoning. Basically you’re saying that you hate noob pilots because they farm kills too easily, but at the same time you’d be ok with ace pilots, who in turn would be scoring easy kills with even greater efficiency for a whole match while being even harder to shoot down?
Because they took the time to find weakness in our guns they study the map and some even went to do high altitude bombing to avoid us
I knew people on Xbox who kept training until they got good at what they did you shouldn’t be allowed to fly without some form of punishment for what we have right now it’s not right.
And that’s the point right there how else are they supposed to learn if they don’t fail Right now what we have any idiot can fly without any repercussion and suicide bomb and there’s a lot of those people
If you talk about AA you are right, everything else no
Focus on AA
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Oh, maybe I spot some sense now.
You’re sorting between noob and expert pilots based on their ability to actually avoid AAA, rather than just ignoring it.
I initially thought you were concerned about efficiency in scoring mass kills.
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This whole topic is for AA guns nothing else
fine they can stop coddling plan noobs right after they remove the ability to suicide,/kamikaze the plane, you think noob spam is bad how about the jerk that turns his plane into a bomb, and yes people got good but i don’t think they want to serve the .1 percent of players that did not everything has to be a souls like
Unfortunately enlisted is known for suicide bombing at this point and AA gun should be at least allowed to stop some of them
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ok , give nothing get almost nothing 10 percent fire rate, damage so a meaningless change and suicide bombers are worse the plane spamming noobs
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To be honest he kind of has a point as it appears to me the REASON they haven’t fixed the AA damage, is BECAUSE they are bringing out new planes to sell.
From what I’ve seen recently it doesn’t even matter. The large majority of enemy planes in my game are suicide planes. They drop bombs, crash, and spawn in with another plane. Heck, 2 nights ago we were having the issue where the plane spam was absolutely insane. I’m talking like 20 planes doing that.
What’s even more annoying is we couldn’t get enough damage into them to even qualify it as our kill, despite hitting them with AA.
From my experience, only about 40% of players use aircraft (according to how many on each team use them), of that 40%, I watch about 3/4 of them crash into the ground repeatedly, not even attempting to make a second pass.
So ultimately it appears that only about 10% of the playerbase is actually competent at using them.
I don’t think that ONLY ace pilots should be allowed to fly, but there should be 2 mechanics in place:
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You should be REQUIRED to go through not just the aircraft TUTORIAL, but also a test scenario that doesn’t hold your hand all the way through. If you complete that, then you are allowed to fly in normal games. If not, you won’t be allowed to use aircraft until you complete it.
(This helps to prevent the players that just suicide bomb every run.) -
There should be a vote kick option to remove players from planes and tanks. (All too often there is someone holding up that slot that is flying around the map either trying to figure out controls or simply can’t hit a single target. This helps to deal with those issues, especially when that slot is needed to deal with specific threats.)
Again, you keep saying “noobs”, I think the better term here is “suicide bombers”. If a new player is a good pilot and hitting targets, surviving, and making more passes, thats fine.
You can avoid most AA by hugging low altitude. I do it all the time. I even cut my engine at about 2000m out so they don’t hear me coming. By the time they realize I’m there I’ve already dropped my bombs and am over the other treeline for 800m and they can’t hit me.
THAT is the point. Not “noob players” per se, but suicide planes.
They changed how the damage was calculated a while back (then removed the post explaining it!)
Essentially they changed it to do fragmentation damage AROUND the hit rather than high damage at the point of impact. This means that if you direct hit the middle of the plane, you are ACTUALLY doing more damage to the base of the wings (which are designed to take tons of hits and basically ignore them). You actually have to aim and try to hit the spots that normally you wouldn’t want to hit, in order to do damage to the areas AROUND them that you do want to hit.
They changed this after too many pilots complained that they were being shot down very rapidly by the “new” single barrel AAs. That they were actually almost MORE effective than the old quad-barrel AAs, because they could accurately hit the important structures and deal high damage to them (AS THEY SHOULD).
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The thing is, as they pointed out in:
Attacking from a higher angle means higher accuracy, while attacking from a lower angle means less accuracy.
Additionally, attacking from a higher angle means you are within the sight of an AA, whereas flying LOW, you are NOT.
So ultimately it SHOULD come down to a balance of risk vs reward.
If you are attacking from high up, you are more accurate, but also more susceptible to AA.
If you are attacking from low, you are less accurate, but also less susceptible to AA.
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I have a feeling most of those complaints came from noobs or shit pilots and if that’s so they should just shut up and stop being so predictable aces don’t have this problem it’s only noobs and shit pilots that have this problem
Impossible!
Nobody else hates everything I hate too?
As a pilot, tanker and soldier, ill take any coddling they give
Love it
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Its not as bad as it used to be, but ill just leave this here
Actually from what I saw of the conversations, very little of it was from new players.
Stop using new players as the target of your post. It’s not the “noobs” that got it changed.
the solution is not nerfing bombs, or making it easier to kill planes its giving them a passive way to score, like giving them a score for spotting, or suppressing fire, the truth is people will game any system, if kamikaze is the best then that’s what they will do, its the same reason tanks camp the grey zone, give players a reason play in a different way and they will do it
tanks camp in the gray zone because they don’t want to die but right now the planes don’t even have that problem they have overwhelming supremacy
If you can see them, try laying on the floor can save you from their cone shape explosion