Agreed.
Then we also need to give semis more rof and give SFs the same cap while on semi.
Definitely not 20. You can reliably KO at midrange with 14-15 hitpower. So IĀØm guessing the cutoff is around 10-13.
What nonsense is this
I use them the majority of the time they seem okay. I do not think they need a damage buff.
Yes thatās what bolt actions are like in real life, Yes they have a small magazine again in real life they did and yes if you miss you die again realistic. I donāt see any issues with the bolt-actionās
I mainly use bolt actions even though i have semi autos so there is a reason to use them.
Seriously ? that sucks just reduce the additional health that vitality gives.
-bolt actions are worthless
-semi autos are not good. ( with the exception of sniper rifles, they ācanā be useful )
-most smgs are good
-some mgs are good
-select fire are god tier.
I can not understand how anyone can possibly say bolt actions are in a good spot.
I guess you two should talk to each other
no need iāve already smashed him in every game iāve seen him
I guess I dont know the answer here. Bolt actions were historically replaced once semi autos and select fire rifles were done with the teething stage out side of the sniper role. I mean its sucks they arent AS good but thats sort of how it is. Small caliber revolvers were phased out by semi autos, AT rifles were replaced by shaped charged rockets. Sort of how it went
I donāt know, I just have played today tunisia and did some really long range sniping with the standard kar 98 (no scope). BA are so accurate, I got several headshots and at that range (140+ m) they couldnāt return fire with ther SA or automatics.
To me that is the true power of BA.
SA are less accurate but you can wreck havoc against BA in short and medium range. What I really think is they should nerf SMG dmg output on medium range (higher damage drop off) that would make SA good counters against SMG at medium range.
Yet which ones? Cause thereās like a few good ones and the rest are kinda crap. Things like the No.4 or SMLE are mostly fine, but something like the M38 carbine I just canāt see anyone using effectively. Seeing as it may even take 2, maybe even 3 shots to down someone.
And again, problem is:
You miss, you die.
You hit, donāt even down the enemy and die.
Thatās what the damage buff suggestin is for. For them to actually kill in 1-2 shots.
So something else since you said how accurate they are is also how cheap they are to upgrade meaning even more accuracy. You can max out a starter BA and one shot kill almost everyone for a pretty low bronze cost
And make SF rifles even more broken then they already are?
Exactly I do have a couple of fully upgraded BA on every campaign, and I maxed out all campaigns ā¦
If I use a BA still they are maxed out. Things like the VZ24 and M91/30 can deal 17 damage maxed out and have almost no deviation.
Oh yeah VZ24 one of my all-time favorites!
I am really worried that people do not seem to get the whole concept of that things have advantages and disadvantages. Often OP talk or buff and nerf talk are to me like, SNIPOR OP PLEASE BUFF PISTOL NOT FAIR.
I think if you take in the cost of bronze orders which is low as they are 3 to 4 stars to max for a 16/17 damage rifle that sort of IS the damage buff people want
I love using BAs because all but America used them as their standard issue rifle throughout the whole war. The real problem is the game encourages wayyy too much run and gun gameplay which encourages smg spam.
Exactly.
Also if you have good aim you more than likely will win every fight against a SA or SF rifle, because they are not as accurate at range. I use BA if I know there will be places where I can play it strength, long range accuracy.
But damn, at times I even go into CQC with them, because at point blank range they kill, if fully upgraded. And in Moscow there is also the bayonetts .
So the majority of times you will be more accurate however a maxed out semi auto is more than accurate enough reliably land hits at 100+ very quickly. Iāve outshot many bolt action shooters with them. Weapons lose 30% deviation which is an incredible boost to accuracy
Oh it is? Than the enemies I fought probably just sucked lol.
But also to me with fully upgraded ZH-26 in Moscow it feels like out of 10 shots 3-4 miss ⦠with BA I have not that problem at range! Maybe I am just unlucky?