keep on topic pl0z
you can really tell who came here from WT because all they want to do is sit here and shoot down any valid criticism and watch the game tear itself apart by going down the exact same road WT did
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This is very fair IMO.
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Silver orders for weapons is ok. I think 25k and 50k xp per order is too high, maybe 20k and 40k or 15k and 30k. Silver orders for equipment is awful. Having to spend a silver order for every medkit, toolbox, grenade, tnt, shovel, pouch, ammo bag, backpack, etc. is way to much and is going to make fitting out squads awful for everyone, regardless of being free to play or someone who spends money on premium time/battle pass. Right now it takes 6k xp for a bronze order which you can use for 1 medkit. With the new system it will take 25k xp, which is an over 300% increase to the grind. Darkflow, please leave equipment alone.
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this update is so bad for new players as almost straight from the beginning you having problems equiping your soldiers and getting enough soldiers you are heavly getting forced to buy premium and all that stuff to get your squad filled up and now they remove the bronze ramdom weapon too???
it is very unfair for new players as they have to upgrade/buy soldiers 4X2 what means a hell of alot silver cards i litterly can only focus on 1 campaing on 1 side and still im getting a hard time to fill everything up with the correct weapons i cant even care about all the other campaigns 
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=========25k===========50k============75k========
=======weapon=====weapon + soldier=====weapon======
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By the way. I have been noticing such discussions for a long time and I see them again.
We started looking for a solution that would make pistols more interesting weapons.
There are many ways:
- faster recharge
- more ammo
- more accurate at close range
- get faster
Let’s make pistols interesting and useful weapons.
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Seems interesting, but this seems to be a downtime period idea probably suitable for March-April for this year. Allocating resources to a change of all pistols can take away from… ehh… more higher priority matters coming soon.
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Lifehack, if you want to dismantle pile of guns fast…
Just hoover your mouse over the dismantle button, so it is lit and keep pressing enter.
No need to move the mouse.
Still it will take some time to remove hundreds of guns.
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I don’t really think this is a pressing issue right now… Seems like theres more important things that should be discussed and worked out first, like the economy, XP gains, balance, additional campaigns splitting the playerbase, etc.
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Thank you for recognizing issue with pistols, however, aside of nagant revolver and very slow reload of revolvers in general, there is nothing pressing at the moment
As @8894782 said, lets sort out economy first. Especially equipment logistics will be met with quite a discontent.
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Урон. Пуль хватает. Стреляет не медленно, удобоваримо. Точность да, нужно повысить за счёт по меньше отдачи. Перезарядка тут кому как. Если пистолет, то буквально на пару долей секунд. А вот револьверы тут жизненно необходимо. Где возможно зарядить револьвер спидлоадером, то дать его. Ну а если по одному, то просто побыстрее сделать.
Но повторюсь - урон сперва нужен ибо нет урона - нет смысла
I understand that not all changes in the game (especially in the economy!) may look positive. But I also see that they are calculated so that the time you spend on development is about the same as before. It’s just that there will be fewer random in the mechanism (as we removed random soldiers, we remove random weapons).
Above, I even saw some calculations in which the authors completely forgot that silver can be obtained in many ways and considered only silver that can be obtained for experience. But they blindly believe. 
Therefore, one can argue (as I said earlier) about the economy endlessly. And the developers who create weapons are not developers involved in the economy. And you can improve pistols at the same time as working on other details of the game.
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Тут сложнее. Урон соответствует пуле. А пули, как правило, такие же как в ПП.
Мы не можем жертвовать реализмом урона делая урон пистолетов выше чем у ПП с такими же характеристиками.
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Dear Darkflow,
Console player here so not everything may be as “1 for 1”. Most of these changes are headed in a better direction. We need the increase in silver orders and making them more prevalent just for playing is perfect. But, as you can see the your player base seems to be 110 percent in agreement then making basic necessity such as med packs and grenades is A VERY BAD MOVE. Way too expensive. Definitely make the change to reward more Silvers. I’m constantly holding on and trying to keep a stack of 20 to 30. I may not play as much at others. I just got the 100% hour in game achievement. But, this also means I’ve spent an additional 100 hours in menu customizing. The grind IS A BIT TOO MUCH!I I understand you’re trying to make it to where not every casual player can attain elite squads and set ups but this is just a tad much. Right now I’m giving more complaints than solutions and I’m be back with a post on my thoughts for that.
I do have a quick question.
I understand the random weapon thing is going away. I’ve used it a bit and have an abundance of things like mortars and flamethrowers. I can’t do anything with them. Can we try to implement something there? They’ve just been a waste of my bronze orders.
All guns and equipment like this should have some means of getting rid of or upgrading.
Again, console player, maybe this is just us.
Lots more to say. It’s late here in Atlanta. But, I’ve been playing and loving the game. It’s quite literally been YEARS since a game had grabbed me and pulled me in giving enjoyment and satisfaction with customizing squads and the overall mechanics of the game.
Great job and Thank you!
I’m a gourmet MLG,VSGC and VGL Pro-competetive player and since getting married and having a child a lot had changed in my priorities. However, it’s been great to have a game pull me in as ENLISTED has!
I’ve also been streaming on Twitch and growing a fan base. I’ve considered reaching out to discuss become a partner player. I’ve not yet researched. Any info on that would be greatly appreciated.
I’m also committing to be active here on the forums.
Again, Thank You!!
-RAKKAR
Sorry for the typos. I am using swype texting.
The comment about MLG should have said “former** competitive competition player”
Ну без урона мало толку. Хотя бы другие пистолеты и револьверы дайте. Окей урона нет. А как маузер на 20 патронов, ХайПаурер? Магазин большой в ущерб урону. Тогда будет прок
So right now, I honestly do not think it matters if the new system is better, worse, or the same. People think its worse, and no one is going to convince them otherwise. The vast majority of people seem to think that this is exactly the same as the Academy Rework and have already decided the update is terrible. There’s simply not a whole lot of good will left
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There is a screenshot above of a shatsh of 500 silver weapon orders accumulated over 8 months. i Got 200 after a year.
So with premium and battlepass, we will need to play for year just to gear ouy single campaign?
Are You sure this is good (i mean for players, not gaijin wallet)?
I was about to buy 1 year premium if the economy was to be fixed, now i see it’s back to playing against bots and dudes with started squads for 5 more years, THAT’S NOT FUN AFTER A YEAR ANYMORE
So we are finally getting silver orders for XP (only 2 months wait since anouncement YAY!) that is good.
We also get new weapon system which is probably ok.
And we seem to be royally fucked with another stupid idea (equip for silver orders…).
Overall I feel dissapointed, it seems like every big patch brings something good but it also always comes with a pile of shit. Well, at least they are consistent with that.
Good luck to new players being able to enjoy like 1 campaign out of 4 available or be ready to open their wallets for superduper special offers.
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