First HLL claims to be historically accurate, then adds Panther, StG-44 and G43 to Stalingrad.
And HLL fans vehemently defend that, saying that’s not important and “if you want realism, get 1 life for game”.
(HLL smells a lot like ‘only western front is important’)
By what metric?
I say Moscow.
So if you are a lvl 1 and you buy the FNAB 4 man squad in Tunisia…it is P2W? I just don’t get that concept or agree with it, because paying money to win would mean you have a distinct advantage over the other team. If you bought the AS-44 or STG-45 you aren’t going to have an advantage over the other team assuming it is a normal match because there are counterparts to weapon available to the other side in the progression tree. Also I don’t see how that is any different than say a level 1 getting matched with a maxed player on the otherside. One just played or maybe paid to the end. So is that Pay to Win/ Play to Win when one has a Mosin but the other has MP-43?
not being a jerk, just trying to understand your position.
my position is i dont care about premium squads they are overpriced and usually bad, but technically they still are P2W bc give you advantages that a normal newbie dont have.
With that I agree with you. 1) they are super overpriced and 2) having a AS-44 does give you an advantage over a dude with a Kar98 who just loaded into his/her first game. I just don’t see the 2nd point as different from the same situation of noob loading into the game with Kar98 and going against a PPSH maxed squad from a player who has played Berlin since Beta.
its different bc the guy from the beta payed that equpment with time spent on the game, and the guy buying just have it from lvl1.
So then you have a completely separate problem. Gate Keeping people who play the longer should have a distinct advantage over players who are just starting out. You will never have retention of a player base ( a problem enlisted actually has) because why would I play this game if I have to suffer objectively more than someone who bought into Berlin access has played for the 11 months it has been out in order to get to a level of lethality. That isn’t balance that is just time being more important than skill. So the real complaint is that people who have put in the time into the game now have their advantage undercut and they don’t like it because they spent time and now it is their turn to dunk on noobs with Mosins
I would also add 3) hiding the only viable counter (Pz IV with HEAT in Moscow vs T-50/34) or unique game mechanics (Engineer with Lewis gun, Rocket tanks) behind paywalls.
I supported the devs at the start by buying BA-11 and Pz 38t as they seemed cool, non-OP and went towards saying thank you to the devs, but these recent Premium squads (and personal pet peeve - (strong) paper guns like AS-44) are way too aggressive.
And I do agree with your sentiment on player retention, I don’t know what the devs were planning but the writing was on the wall a year ago:
100 percent agree. There shouldn’t be things locked behind pay walls the rocket tanks are probably the biggest problem in the game right now as you can’t get them anywhere else. Don’t get me wrong here the direction premium squads are going is a general concern. They are getting more and more powerful. Specially if you compare the lewis gun squad to the FNAB squad. The developers have 100 percent changed their tune with premium. It went from “premium squads are to help with the grind” to hey these guys are an effective squad into the late progression. A lot of that has to be the price no one is going to pay 60 dollars for a squad in a single campaign and it become obsolete when you hit level 32. Not saying I agree with that direction, but P2W would mean that the purchasing party has a distinct advantage over another player, when that is simply not the case with the AS-44 or STG-45. They have viable counters on the other side that are virtually the same and if a level 1 can get it with money I see that as a meh way to balance a broken progression system we currently have, because at the end of the day you are going to have a level 1 suffer or a level 1 making middle tier people suffer who don’t have the counter unlocked yet. That is a progression problem not a weapon problem imo.
They seem to want to create a rival to the stg44 that never existed in history to prove the superiority of the Soviet lol
yeah though its a bit disgusting that soviets in ww2 possess assault rifle imo, they didnt have one and it looks just stupid , also soviet panezrfaust or mauser everywhere
just as someone might hate when germans use ppsh in stalingrad
What i literally do not want to see is every soviet assaulter being able to equip this weapon or other assault rifles for free, for in my opinion soviet army in WW2 do not deserve the opportunity to possess an AR on large scale. They never used it and had other (NOT BUFFED) guns to cope with it. There are still situations where AR can be superior to SMG and fact that somebody considers PPSH to be general purpose ultimate wonder weapon suitable for everything is just laughable to me 
ofc multiplied by AVT, AVS and Fedorov (where fedorov actually is more of an AR than both other rifles) cause those were nowhere near able even to compete with AR and its intermediate cartridge…
when i first saw AS-44 coming to Enlisted initially i thought devs dont know what new could they possibly add to satisfy and babysit soviet playerbase …so they add AS-44 ? Ofc as premium squad but why should be Soviet AR for free ?
Is allied player in berlin so bad he needs the same category of a weapon to cope against STG ? NO he dont because all relevant soviet guns that could somehow threaten position of enemy AR are artificially buffed just right so soviet AR is not needed at all
its the same situation when you would give US soldiers in normandy AR-15 because allies there would have a problem to cope against german AR or better yet the devs would run out of ideas what new to add for allies so they add future wunderwaffen… thankfully they found a way how to buff BAR and M2 carbine just right
ive somehow accepted the fact that some mistakes they have done in premium squads area, cant be undone by the same people who created them
The fact it’s been announced and this screenshots and everything there’s nothing we can do it’s gonna happen historical accuracy has just gone out the window.
if this AR trend for soviets will continue to f2p area then it is insanity
Well, it is pretty miserable to play allied Berlin. Just saying.
Actually, yes.
If we should have ahistorical stuff, then this better be gold/premium/event stuff.
That keeps the appearance of this stuff relatively low and keeps it from being meta at least.
i mean i play allies as well, i do not main only one faction, im aware that weapon variety for soviets might not be so colorful but come on, soviet AR in ww2 era is just too much of a fantasy, just as MKb 42 in moscow, besides AVT 40 and PPSH are buffed enough to compete against STG
guys, let’s keep order and don’t use post from 1 year ago
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