Then I’ll keep my main suggestion straight and simple:
In whatever way you change progression and economy,
Do NOT
And I mean
DO NOT - EVER - ADD ARBITRARY CURRENCY SINKS
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First of all, I like the idea of a weapon grind system where you can chose what to grind. That being said, I am a little confused and worried about some parts of this changes and have questions on some:
Historical accuracy is, at least for me, an important part of the expierience. To have a kingtiger in Afrika or a IS II already in Moscow would literally kill the fun out og the game for me and for most of my friends.
On the other hand, if you matchmake according to equipment and also chose the maps according to it, that would mean, that if I heve completly grinded Normady and almost Berlin, that I will never again get a Moscow or Tunisia map offered, as my weapons are from a later period / higher rank.??? That would be another thing to kill the fun.
Captured weapons, adapted weapons. What will happen e.g to Suomi smg or pps smg, which German Soldiers used only at the eastern front but not in Africa or Normandy?!
Premium Squads. How will it work with premium squads? Some can’t be used e.g in Africa, as they did not exist. Same about camos of vehicles, unlocked through gold vehicle cards?? Will we see Africa camo in Russia? Or loose the 5 Star vehicles we grinded or bought (battle pass)??
Squad slots. I for my part have bought 10 squad slots in every campaign I have played. How will it be in the new system? Do I have no 50 slots for germany (5x campaignes 10 slots each) and 10 for the USA (10 slots from the pacific campagne). Or do I have 10 overall and how will i be compensated for the money I paid for these slots that I can’t use anymore, its approx. 50€ per campaign.???
So i would highly appreciate if you could clarify some of these points for me. Thx.
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Ok, this is probably some crazy idea, but hear me out.
What if we divided all campaigns into for example two sets of campaigns. Set A: Berlin, Tunesia …, set B: Moscow, Pacific …
Now we could say, on Monday you can only play campaigns from set A, next day only from set B. Like a campaign rotation.
I mean, there is virtually noone who playes exclusively a single campaign, so this would only be a minor inconvenience for the players.
You could make this system even more interesting by adding more sets, that even overlapp, or even change over time. Possibilities are countless.
This would more or less solve the issue with the fragmented playerbase.
Please, Keo forward this idea to the devs and at least think once about it, before you turn the whole game upside down.
just equip older weapons.
it is stupid idea… this would kill game even faster. you would be forced to play campaigns that you dont want to or you havent grinded.
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Until March 3rd for sure.
There will be a second devblog, and then we will start collecting answers for QA.
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Do you really say that if I pick random 3 of the 6 campaigns, you won’t find any of them entertaining? Because in that case the game is already dead.
Okay just to be clear:
Once you unlock the Tiger, it is added to your German lineup, but it will only be available for selection on the following maps: Kursk, Djedeida (Tunisia), Bagration, Berlin, Normandy, Ardennes (while also automatically and for free using the adaptive camo).
But it would not be available for spawn on the following maps: Moscow, Stalingrad, Brest Fortress, etc.
At the same time, Pz IV F2 would NOT be available for spawn in Moscow for historical reasons and T-34 would NOT be available for spawn in Moscow either but for balance reasons.
i wont find them entertaining cause i dont have them grinded. and idk if you planned to have any MM with those. overall half baked idea.
I am against the proposed changes to Enlisted. I have been playing War Thunder since 2015, and the research system has been bad the entire time I’ve played that game. Please do not turn this fun game into another War Thunder by adding a collective tech tree.
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It’s great! I’ve been waiting for this update my whole life! With better progression and matching, Enlisted will be one of the best WW2 games for me!
The integration of progression by camps is a great change! I have maxed out the Allied levels in Stalingrad and Normandy, which means I no longer have to grind Soviet and American troops. I’m also very happy that it will even be possible to bring my favorite Soviet female medic not only to Stalingrad, but to Moscow and Berlin!
But there are a few things I’m wondering about, first of all, if the faction is going to be integrated by nation, will the Allies on the Western Front be split up into American, British, Canadian, etc. forces?
And what about the Pacific Front? The Japanese do not have the equipment to compete with the weapons they get when they take the U.S. forces in Normandy to the maximum level. For example, what should the Japanese Army do if Sherman Jumbo is put into the Pacific? Or will the US Army and Marine Corps be treated as separate faction? Or will the Japanese be given equipment capable of destroying the Sherman Jumbo?
I’m both hopeful and anxious at the same time, but this announcement is very exciting! I look forward to hearing more about your progress!
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so you want 50 campaigns all with their own research? and pve game with separate queues?
And what is going to happen to those who have bought the Stalingrad pass for x4 progression since all the campaign rewards will be fused into 1 tree that god knows what will contain what we will miss out on. Or even better if they are gonna do this scummy move I’ve seen another game do where they removed things from the game in order to add them back in events and make people pay for items that were previously available to everyone for free.
I quit WT because of this. I’d play ten matches at lower levels to get enough for a match or two for late WW2/Early Vietnam era and if I had a really good match, I’d be able to play another game or two. If I got roflstomped, I might not even be able to repair everything. It made me wonder how bad it was once you got to the modern shit and I just decided then and there not to even try.
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honestly they could have kept every campaigns’ unique squad load out even if you’re global queueing
Let’s say you queue as USSR, you will either be send to Moscow/Stalingrad/Berlin.
If matchmaker send you to Stalingrad you’ll have your Stalingrad load out. This will prevent historical inaccuracies. You could even remove time travel weapons/tanks in this new format/research tree.
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Yes seperate loadouts is a must have
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Way to jump to conclusions, I simply do not want to have this fun game turned into a non-historical, grindy cesspit. I feel as though these changes will propagate those aforementioned fears. The current system, though not perfect, is clear on its mission statement. For example, if you do not want to play with Tiger 2’s, playing Moscow is a surefire way to avoid that. With this planned update that is not necessarily the case. People could be loading up on 5 bad squads to load up one overpowered squad and ruin low tier matches.
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It’s more about balance than historical accuracy, it doesn’t feel right when stg44s are going to fight against 1905 or 1938 mosins alone. The historical period is automatically balancing itself because when let’s say germany developed a new gun then russia would develope a response design, that’s how real life balance works. We should not make our own unrealistic balance changes.
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where did you find the slow MP 40? In game it has 500 rpm
What do you expect more than half baked ideas, im not a game developer, nor are you. This is merely an idea that the devs could flesh out.
And you you see correctly, I do not plan any MM, in my opinion the current matchmaking is ok. Its is only plagued by severe lack of players.
If you play a single campaing, there is of course 50% chance that on a given day you cant play.
If you play 2 campaigns than its just 20%
If you play 3 campaigns then even less, only 5%
If you play more, you are garanteed the have something to play every day.
I personally play mainly, Moscow < Berlin < Tunesia and occasionally Normandy.