A case to downtier the Johnson lmg

Finally some one that can think

@Yamoto4299-live see my friend this is a statement that some one that can think not like you…

IMG_20250902_114011
Your saying I can’t understand a simple concept?

Your the one claiming that the manual is incorrect and actually lies about the rpm the gun should be fired at. Why would the writer on the manual hide the rpm the gun should be fired at in another part of the book, these manuals are ment to be dummy proof, the information is laid out simply not hidden.

1 Like

Talking about this - wasnt there something about simple blow back weapons having issues with reliability when using suppressors? Modern guns have adjustable gas ports for different bullet loads, that being said also one of the reasons why most western rifles nowadays use a gas piston system instead of the classical M16 system where the gas blows directly into the chamber to move the bolt is that when using a suppressor - more gas gets also blown back into the shooters face, of course not to mention that gas inside the chamber increases heat inside of moving parts.

Other reasons I can think of might be how a bolt unlocks its bolt after shooting, a gas system starts redirecting gas when the bullet has almost left the barrel and only moves the bolt when the bullet has already left the gun (recoil that starts before that could theoretically shift accuracy by quite some bit)

Well, many firearms utilizing a blowback system, which uses the expanding gas to cycle the weapon, can use a suppressor, but it’s crucial to select a compatible suppressor and may require tuning to manage the added blowback. High-pressure gases created by a suppressor can increase blowback, leading to potential issues like gas in the shooter’s face, increased parts wear, and reliability problems. Modern suppressors are often designed to reduce blowback, but some traditional models can increase it, so compatibility and proper selection are key.

1 Like

Johnston Model D1918 machine gun Johnston Model D1918 machine gun br4 we deserve

johnson1-400x310
It looks a lot like the fo4 assault rifle
IMG_20250902_174304
But there are better options that saw service and we have more information on them, so I’d prefer if the guns that went into service were added first and if there’s still a need for a br4 mg then I suppose the Devs might have to resort to prototypes.

just drop the german mg to 50 rounds at br4 while a sad gun the johnson lmg would go from pathetic to adequate, otherwise the us need a different gun none i can think of were used in combat

The allies is a collection of US and commonwealth forces, it doesn’t have to be a US gun, the UK had the Vickers k gun with a 60 round mag. A potential br4 US mg could be the m1919a6 as the bren 100 has already been downtired and their both similar.

1 Like

Its not that I lie you cant change the gun to slow fire since you cant even read the manual. Rate of fire is not something you can find in some ‘‘ancient document’’

‘‘The M1941 Johnson Light Machine Gun’s slow-fire notch was a feature on the rear sight aperture of the M1941 Johnson Rifle, which could be modified by users, most notably by USMC Paramarines, to cut the aperture into a deeper “V” or flat “U” shape for faster target acquisition and to reduce muzzle climb. While the M1941 LMG was designed for this purpose with its straight-line stock to minimize recoil and muzzle climb, users noted that the sights had to be placed higher and the modification of the rear sight notch was a common field adjustment by Marines.’’

The sad part is you didnt even bother to play the gun to realize that it has slow fire mode just like the other ‘‘weapon experts’’ on the forum. Go find it in your manual after this you can pass it so I can wipe my ass with since thats the only thing the manual is good for…

I know it has a auto and auto slow feature but neither of the 2 rpms it’s capable of are stated in the manual. And even though you may not trust the manual I’m more inclined to trust it because the information would have to be up to date before it’s issued to troops.

But quite frankly I’m done with arguing with you, the Devs probably won’t change their mind about the type 99, nor will they act upon the information in the user manual and change the Johnson’s rpm.
IMG_20250903_143927
So why don’t we just leave this in the past.

1 Like

Well thats my point from the very begging devs should not try to make weapons like type 99 or Johnson realistic since they dont have the capacity to do so they cant even add a scope to type 99 so if they cant fix something better not touch it since this realistic change was not realistic and it was not good for the game over all. Same will be with the Johnson its a complicated weapon that fires on two different rates of fire weapons like Johnson and type 99 dont have exact rate of fire since they have features that allows them to change this rate of fire and when the US army tested type 99 the weapon was switched on a higher position to achieve this RPM not that the US sources where wrong since rate of fire depends on many things and for some weapons its really hard to calculate since it depends on many factors as the Johnson as you can see. There is big change between Johnson’s during the war and cherry picking is a bad since as you can see I have showed you the more accurate source but you ignored it. Since not all sources take to account how the weapon work and if you look at the Johnson really had rate of fire ranging from 200-1000 depending on the model and the settings of the weapon.