Me when Hyde44 in TT
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Me when fg42 is tech Tre as rifleman’s weapon
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Veekay will never grasp the concept that we seem to understand. That germany in this game is inherently complete fiction, and even if you got rid of the “fakes” in other nations, the game would still not be “HA” simply because it doesn’t depict germany as it actually were. For him being an HA fanatic he’s incredibly blinded by his own bias.
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Here King, you dropped this 
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It does not go prototype on one level then everything else, the US made 3 million grand Germany made 6 ooo fg42 and 400k g43 most Germans used the kar98
To be honest, I personally like the idea of giving it the 10 round mag, but making it a SF rifle or like the vg15 that can be used by almost everyone. That way it will be more useful than taking a smg slot from the assaulters
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I literally never said “I want the game to be Historically Accurate”.
All I’ve said since 2020 is that I hate seeing things that were never issued to troops on WW2 battlefields.
Is it really that difficult to understand that it has to be repeated I’ve never advocated for milsim/steel quality/food shortages/shoes comfort accuracy?
Yes, keep spamming the same annoying dogmas. Literally just being an obnoxious forum meme. It’s clear that your spam has little to no effect on what gets added to the game.
Yet you are still crying like a little spoiled kid (I really have no better way to describe it.). It’s so annoying.
Not to mention, you are lying.
I remember you being completely hysterical when devs added Pz IV F2 to Moscow campaign.
and there’s much more innit:
*shameless plug
https://sandbox.enlisted.net/post/GwssB3dlMKAlRvAl/
glad someone likes it.
but agree with the thread.
mkb 15/10 will most likely become yet another forgotten weapon either way.
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Not really paying attention then i take it
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That’s the issue though. You refuse to acknowledge that the game would be extremely lopsided if only the guns were historically accurate. If guns are accurate in a game like this, then nations need to be depicted accurately as well (like economy of weapons and vehicles used/resources). In real life it was EXTREMELY rare to ever meet a king tiger in battle. Here, you’re guaranteed to meet several in one match. You would also need a one hit kill damage model to keep weapon balance.The game would have to be fundamentally redesigned to have only historical guns depicted. That’s just not what enlisted is. You can’t have one without the other.
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Once again – I’m not promoting “guns to be historically accurate”.
Once again – what I hate is seeing stuff that was never used in WW2 everywhere.
The only “hard locked” weapon stats are magazine size and rate of fire.
Everything else can be tweaked by ingame digits – damage, recoil, spread, ads speed, reload time, etc.
Note how in games like BFV every player has access to STG, yet Sten and M3 Grease Gun are still viable and played.
Note how in games like HLL Soviets don’t need a magicland ASs-44 and Americans don’t need imaginary Hyde to play against Germans with that same STG.
If you want to promote limiting running 3x9 FG-42 squads – I’ll support your effort, but that’s beyond my main point here.
Absolutely not mandatory to eliminate the fakes, look at the game examples above.
Enisted is not battlefield the 30 round thompson is not comparable to a stg44. The M2 is not comparable to the FG42 US might not need the hyde but it was in desperate need of the T20.
That’s exactly why I prefer Enlisted over those game.
If you are so fond of those games, then go play them. And stop trying to ruin Enlisted.
They are not identical in BFV either, but they are both equally viable, they have their ups and downs.
There’s no reason why we couldn’t have this in Enlisted better.
Imo even 30 round Thompson = STG is still better than adding fake stuff like Hyde and ruining the WW2 immersion.
you mean like the immersion shattering fg42 being used as an infantry gun i agree
or the average german soldier using the fg42 g43 and g41 instead of a karabiner98
either its ww2 or its balanced no german wank fest
Step 1 – no fakes
Step 2 – limit weapons availability like FG-42 for paratroopers only
Agreed.
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step 1 and 2 need to happen at the same time not 6 months apart not a year apart ect
How is this not advocating for guns to be historically accurate? That’s exactly what this is.
HLL has a one hit kill damage model fundamentally making a difference in weapons somewhat negligible. They also have much stricter loadout options for players. You’re not going to see 100 fg42s/stg44s. HLL can get away with a more accurate gun depiction because of the additional game features.
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Historically accurate guns means historical bullet ballistics, muzzle velocity, damage models, etc.
For me, I couldn’t care less if StG 44 is equally as deadly as PPSh 41, all I care about is never having to see ASs which was never used in WW2.
BFV doesn’t have that damage model, and you see some people using StG, some using Suomi, some using Sten, and the game didn’t explode due to imbalance.