Why is PZIIIJ/1 gun is nerfed?

I think ALL canons in game have their pen values diminished over distance. Probably to make up for the very close engagement range we have here :thinking:

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my guess is that it uses war thunder’s old penetration charts

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t50 armor is still a mess.

was always a mess. and will be forever a mess

So your guess would be that enlisted is using an old WT pen calculator that is outdated?

Enlisted development start in 2016/2017 with an old version of war thunder, so is not really improbable, the game use the old warthunder damage system

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That’s against an early Pz3, didn’t cared to look exactly the model, but see how many frontplate shots it took until it was dead.

Now look at this one, i depleted my AP ammo.

A observation is that none of those shots were aimed, as one of the mainpoints is that any new player can buy the T-50 and use it on a tanker 1 squad, this is what it looks like to be a new player fighting even a early pz3, while it’s armor is decent and gun has good penetration the lack of explosive mass is evident, it is only a threat on the hands of a experienced player.

Forget you need hit the tanker with the AP for kill a tank, something even the worst tanker in enlisted can do with a t50 in moscow, withaut hit the ammo even a tiger cant kill a t50 in practice because it overpen him

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That’s the point, a new player that got the premium T50 on his tanker 1 squad isn’t a threat as he doesnt have idea on how to properly fight a enemy tank.

This is true only if he struggles to join the server, or has severe brain damage. T-50 is like attending Usain Bolt attending to paraolympic 400m dash against wheelchairs.

Pravda propaganda Allied Main going wild again.

What part of KILL THE TANKER you cant read, you only overpen an empty panzer :clown_face:

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That is still four-five well placed shots, i rememebr the people complaining about the AT rifles (allies/axis) when they were perfectly possible to crew snipe, but that’s not a thing everyone know how to do.

Wo dont hit nothing and dont do damage, because as in war thunder you need kill crew or ammo for kill a tank

Congratulation @Comunistinha you got achievments
“i dont know what im saying”

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It’s like throwing leaves to the wind with these but:
Read this out loud.
T-50 can be beaten only by two axis tanks. (and P2 from the side meme?)
Every Allied Tank above T-60 can pen and beat any axis tank.

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What? i said that if the tanks had crewmembers inside it that would still be 4-5 well placed shots, as is know that new players or players with less familiarity with tanks may still have difficulty finising the crew with the shots, i have no idea what you understood of my comment but a heavy misscommunication has being going on.

The point of it all is that isn’t op having a t50 at the disposition for new players because they have no idea on how to effectivelly use it.

It need 2 shot one in the center and one in the turret, if you need 5 shot with a t50 you need use glasses for see what you are shooting

Were new player shoot at center and in the turret 2 shot

Now you got it, someone that know where to shoot at will have no issue, but that’s true to any tank, the entire discussion is that a new player with a shinny premium t50 probably has no idea on how to use it, where to shoot. You, me and several other veteran/tank enthusiasts can probably can just click and delete an enemy tank, new players normally dont.

Good man, t50 pen all panzer from every direction you dont need know were shoot you need shoot at the center, there is nothing to understand is a NOOB tank, dont require skill

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Actually 4 tanks; the short 75 can go through the turret and nuke the tank while both 50s can go through the turret and take out 2/4 crew, 3/4 crew or at least take out the breach

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The 50s dint work in quarry at 500m of spwncamping :slightly_smiling_face: