Well are we buffing every SMG in the game or only BR IiI ones?
I would say buff ALL guns in the game by reducing dispersion heavily. Then increase recoil universally, trying to maintain historical accuracy but also consider balance (for example PPSh irl is extremely controllable, but maybe would need higher recoil for gameplay balance).
This means your bullets will go where you aim. Recoil control will be a skill and will force people to consider crouching/prone/bracing to counter higher recoil.
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Who even said PPSH box is getting fixed? Haven’t seen such announcement.
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Well I feel like that would make most SMGs a little too overpowered when compared to Rifles.
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This is the current situation of BR5:
The Soviets had better assault rifles and aircrafts, and the Germans have better automatic rifles, machine guns and tanks.
And this is the 2nd most balanced version for eastern front BR5 since the merge. The most balanced version is after fedorov been buffed to 13.9 before fg42-2 buffed to 15.3.
Well, all rifles definitely deserve a dispersion buff, nothing is more frustrating than a long range gun being limited in accuracy.
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ppsh 41 box dispersion: 0.21
mkb42 dispersion: 0.53
an SMG should not be over 2x as accurate as an assault rifle, this thread is full of insane people, it needs nerfed, you dont buff every SMG to be more accurate than ARs
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That’s what I’m saying!
I would be okay with this.
But this is currently arguing against a fix not based on how the game is working, but how you wished the game was working, which isn’t really part of the discussion…?
Make a new post suggesting this idea, I’d support it, but leaving the PPSh-41 as is in the current game enviornment is not an option. You’re not garnering much in the way of support throwing yourself in front of this change, rather the opposite.
Change goals, don’t be in opposition to this change, be in favour of a new system instead.
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Their rifle isn’t better, especially against body armor.
Yes. Germany is the only country, that used assault rifles. In the game they have the worst ones
Man, have you seen RD-44? It has no dispersion debuffs
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its old, but the ppsh box havent changed anywhere nor stg44 so ttk is still exactly the same.
And since this is just TTK it doesnt take in account the recoil nor dispersion, which both favors ppsh over stg.
Maybe, but that can be balanced by changing damage, damage falloff, velocity, rof, reload, recoil, etc. The key thing I want is for bullets to go where I aim. When I go to the shooting range irl, my bullets don’t miss because of “dispersion” they miss because I aimed poorly. I want guns in Enlisted to do the same.
Also, historically, there is a reason that rifles fell out of favor for automatics; they can always adjust BRs so that only crappy smgs run against bolties/lower semis in addition to the above.
Actually the AS-44 did see service just very little
Well irl, your gun will have dispersion, mainly because your gun has a pretty short barrel. SMG are not for sniping, they are for close quarters combat.
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Body armor. 100% needs to be removed and made cosmetic only.
In general, as far as I understand, PPSh now has broken dispersion – so it’s not a nerf, it’s a fix.
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I don’t think dispersion on ANY semi-auto should be nerfed. It should be buffed to bolty levels imo.
The reload on the SVT is what needs nerfing
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Correction of obviously broken dispersion is not a nerf, it’s a fix. 
So I have no clue what are you even talking about.
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If it hasn’t been updated for a long time, then it’s fake
And how could PPSh change, they just didn’t notice, so this is fake information from this site