Why are the Allied Guns so bad?

Doesn’t matter whatever battle you’re in the allied guns, even at BRV are terrible. Axis 1 shot kills all over the place. Allied guns so much recoil you have to have the sight dead on, yet if i had any of those guns from BRIII and up in real life, it takes a soldier down.

Fed up with being in games where the Axis just run thru rains of bullets yet you’ll have all of them lined up for the kill.

Can the devs do something about the ability of the BRV guns!

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Wdym? Y’all got some solid guns throughout your TT

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the gun might be labelled as quality but the weapons itself do very little damage in comparison to the Axis guns

I do very well at level one with the Sten and M50, level two with my Thompsons and Browning 5 shotguns, level three with the BAR 1918 A2 and my Garand, and level five with my Browning 1919 A6, T-20 and M2 Carbine (I love the T-20). I play every faction and personally don’t think I get over powered when I am playing Allies. If you don’t have it, the BP Winchester 1907 at BR3 is an awesome gun (my favorite semi auto at BR3), but if you don’t have it you’ll have to wait for the Dev’s to spoon feed you one at a time for the next couple years. :grinning: Same with the M2 Stinger, which I have five.

However, I would now feel over powered at level one if I choose to play Allies against the Japanese, but I don’t really play level one much anymore with any faction.

What are you talking about? BR5 Allied guns are superior to anything Germany has at BR5.

MG? Stinger is the best. SF Rifle? T20 is the best. AR? Hyde is better in most situations than STG44. Paratroopers? Two very powerful squads that got buffed multiple times.

There are barely any difference between recoil of US and GER guns. And it’s actually Germany that has worse recoil for example FG42 II is harder to control than your T20. So it’s a massive skill issue.

You should try playing with garbage BR2-3 Germany for once you will finally feel our pain of using the worst guns in the entire game that are completely inferior to your competitors. Garand vs garbage G41 is just not fair. Smgs are just as bad. MG34 can’t compete vs op BAR.

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This is my infantry lineup at BR5. How could anyone say they are weak? Add two planes, tank, APC and you have nation that has zero weaknesses.

I want to buy T24 on sale as i feel like it may get a buff in future.

You need to stop lying about this, it lessens and takes away from your actually valid points.

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Oh so you think MG34 is better in any situation? Nobody is lying it’s the truth BAR is almost always better weapon than highly immobile and inaccurate MG34. MG34 is only good when you use bipod or crounch/prone shot you can’t rush points with that thing

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Major skill issue if you cant tbh, its literally the best for point clearing at BR3.

The BAR has no where near enough ammo to clear points of 10+ enemies. Like when you look at the base stats sure, like there is good reason if a 40rnd Bar was added, it would have to BR4, BR5 maybe even, however with how small its mag is, it just cant do any of that. The BAR is a great SMG, but its a fucking mid af MG.

Genuinely you constant over coping and lying does so much harm to the really valid points you make sometimes.

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Consider pressing the “R” key. Having a autorifle with a slight sprint penalty is much better for aggression which is what actually wins matches. I always use the Polish BAR premium squad at German BR3 over the MG34. If a BAR was added to the German TT I Sell all MG34s to fund buying and equipping them. A 40 round BAR would be pure bliss if it handled aswell as the others and be only worse than the stinger and RD-44 in terms of BR5 MGs.

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It has fast reload speed

Just get in cover and reload, it has enough ammo for squad wipes and that’s the only thing that should really interest you

Saying it’s bad is like saying only high mag capacity SMGs are good because ‘more bullet = more kill’

Ironic you started a comment like this with a ‘skill issue’

Americans have one of the best weapons on BR2, BR3 and BR5

Have you upgrades your guns? Are you running vitality and recoil perks?

T20 deals the same amount of damage as FG42. Garands and Johnsons even have 0.9 more damage than Gewehr 41. Thompsons are one of the highest damage SMGs in the game

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skill issue

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Well run and gun tactics in general are more useful - but if you ignore the limitations and purely use MG34 in a stationary setting it actually is very very good in what it can do for a BR3 MG.

Better quality of life for MG gameplay could fix this - like auto bipod bonus when laying down, or in general easier bipod placements.

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“The one person I will not disagree with about such statement”

Can you give us an example? What guns are you using? If your gear is mostly just M1 Carbines and Grease Guns you shouldn’t be surprised.

“Br5 guns are bad”…

So… 1919, Hyde and T20 are probably just plastic props :thinking:

As wiser men or women answered:

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true which is surprising, you can fire a two round burst on any BAR
in fact on the M1918A2 you can fire on slow auto which means going from singe round ‘burst’ to full auto.
yes as long to medium range the BAR is great but close range a hc mg can spray and pray like a smg by holding the trigger or bursts
in a hall or small room i like a gun where i ‘aim’ at chest and take down a squad

The amount of times i have used the BAR like a rifle and got head shots in amazing weapon for BR3. Can seem to land single shot head shot at long range, very good burst fire at medium and full auto is really good at close range. just have to be used to the weapons and how to fire them and be conscious of the 20rd mag. Dont even get me started on the M1 rifle that is another solid gun.

i agree for long and medium range it a good ‘rifle’ able to make ‘fast’ aimed shots. but unless you take out the player first or second the player will kill you. at close range or inside a building you cant mow down two or three soldiers in one burst. in fact at medium to long range the gun feels more like a dmr (not in game), ar or sf just in smaller numbers. an mg42 in a building can mow down 9 soldiers in groups of twos or three or more depending if there in line of site.