What's up with Panzerfaust's penetrating King Tigers and Jumbos frontally?

Is there a source to prove this or are we just trusting Wikipedia?

If it’s true, why doesn’t the 88mm HEAT shell the Tigers have access to come close to it?

I suppose that’s true, but I’d still like to see the source we’re rolling with. I am open to being proven wrong, but I personally don’t believe it.

Why would the Panzerfaust be used on the sides of a vehicle if it can just punch through the front?

Well yeah, but our handheld AT was developed almost 80 years since then. I find it bizarre how much penetration it gets.

What’s the source for that?

I want to know the source that says a Panzerfaust can punch through this much, don’t just say no.

Yes, they were. They did not have the velocity or penetration to punch through most vehicles frontally and, as a result, were used to take out vehicles from the side through maneuver warfare.

That’s not an answer.

I am fully familiar with the difference between HEAT and APCBC, but the Tiger also has a HEAT Shell in history. That HEAT shell does not punch through anywhere close to the same amount.

I am aware the Panzerfaust had great success as an AT weapon, but if it, and the Panzershrek, could simply Lolpen any allied tank, including the T95, why was the Jumbo so successful?

I’m not asking for conjecture. I want to know a source that isn’t Wikipedia. What reliable source says that this weapon can penetrate 200mm of armor?

I know how HEAT shells work, but similar HEAT weaponry in game does not come close to that. Even if we look at the Tiger’s HEAT shell, it doesn’t come close to that amount.

Why would the allies invest in breakthrough tanks if the Germans had this wonder weapon?

Why would the Germans copy the Bazooka and upscale it if the Panzerfaust does more damage and penetrates just as much?

Because launcher had only a limited range with 100m if yout lucky while a tank can shoot 2 km if it has too.

Very rarely, if ever, did any AT weapon of the time get used outside of close range.

I am aware that the weapon system is dangerous and performed well. I am not asking for you to explain HEAT to me.

I am asking for a source. Give me a source.

You dont even know what you are talking about

In this game the tiger has no HEAT shells…

The differences between what WarThunder’s research team finds acceptable versus what Enlisted’s research team finds acceptable is insane. This would not fly in the other community.

Wikipedia is not a reliable source and makes frequent mistakes. The claim that Wikipedia is accurate can be immediately disproven when you recognize it listed the M103’s fake nickname for a period of time.

I very clearly stated the Tiger’s HEAT shell. I did not refer to the game.

Because they did?
The panzerfaust was developed based on capture M1 bazooka just upscaled for their own need as the early heat shells just were not that great…

The Panzershrek was designed after the Bazooka, not the Panzerfaust.

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You just admitted the very reason why HEAT weaponry was not favored. How could something like the Panzerfaust, in an era where HEAT was unreliable, have such an extreme amount of penetration?

Even the Germans utilized in on the side in ambush roles.

Bigger diameter=bigger boom
Even when your warhead is shit quality there is enough energy to just brute force a penetration.

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And where is your proof that a Panzerfaust has 200mm of penetration.

I am well aware it can punch through a tank, and likely a standard Sherman frontally, but I want to know what source you use. A reliable source that is not Wikipedia. One that would actually fly under WarThunder’s precision.

Why would a marksman be taught to aim for the bottom of the throat if a bullet can go through a man’s skull? Guarantees. It can go through the front armor, but it absolutely beyond the shadow of a doubt go through the side armor

Side ambush were prefered as it is easier to hide in an allyway than infront of the target where optics are looking+ turret and MGs wont initially be facing that way if you spring the ambush.

This was not dictated by the launcher but by the application of tactics.
Even small arms prefeer such ambushes from the side over frontal engagments.

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Then prove the Panzerfaust’s penetration with a primary source.

Litterly every source online + most likely some test results in some dusty arcive…
Do we really need to question everything if nobody is really opposing it othere than you.

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Yea, I’ll have to dig it out but iirc the HEAT round the tigers ended up with weren’t really changed through the war like other german HEAT rounds were.