Weapon and vehicle Battle Rating changes!

Pps42 was still faster to hit someone 3 times with 690 rpm
than with Mp40 to hit someone 2 times with 570 rpm so I guess it only made a difference for Lanchester and Type 2a fights since both have 690 rpm

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Honestly, I want to complete my German faction clothes.
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After this update i’m abandoning Germany BR2 unless you buff them by a ton, they are now the weakest country bar none at that BR. And i know you did it on purpose, to force people to buy premium MP18, PPS-43, MAS-38 and premium time to leave BR2 as fast as possible. What a shame that Germany is now just a paypig and punching bag country unless you play at BR5.

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fair enough and absolutely understandable - I was just joking even though we all know how desperate I am trying to convince the world why I think body armor destroys a lot of game balance.

without body armor non of this would be an issue - PPS downs with 3 shots, MP40 downs with 2 shots, the faster rate of fire totally makes sense in this setting, its literally just body armor that messes with this dynamic.

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Great thing that Soviets and Americans are now having BR3 smgs at BR2 :rofl:

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I can’t complain, at least we get something new for once.

They would still kill you faster as their dps is much higher than your MP40.

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Thompson at BR.II, where it will meet new players ?

really ?

Neither the Thompson, nor the MP-40 should meet new players.

Why not create a BR.VI and decompress instead of doing that kind of bad rebalancing ?

Is this supposed to be the new record of incompetence after the steam release ?

Apparently Gaijin thinks Sten 2 with almost the same stats as MP40 belongs to BR1 so it’s fine for BR2 players having overpowered guns and killing BR1 players all day long. You have Gaijin’s approval to remove all unwanted guests.

50% more bullets to kill, but 40% higher rate of fire.

its very close actually.

well yes, this bullets to kill counts only for close range, so PPS would actually get a range advantage over MP40 at medium range, but at medium to long range this evens out again.

PPS-43 may lose at mid-long range but pps-42 definitely not as it’s very accurate and has actually better stats than MP40

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I think all of them are very very controllable and the recoil stats really dont matter, what should matter is that MP40 should have much better dispersion for its lower rate of fire, so that it actually was really more accurate, PPS42 and PPS43 is also kinda stupid, because apparently PPS42 has worse dispersion than PPS43 despite it shooting slower.

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Would not be suprised if the new Uragan would powercreep both the PPS 42 and 43 at the same time…

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so far it has worse dispersion then PPS42 and PPS43 - not quite obrez levels, but still should be noticeable in theory

literally made PZ III N a useless shit… ow mighty have fallen…

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it gets a better HEAT tho, and if you check warthunder wiki, you’ll find out that “Hl.Gr 38C” has 115mm of penetration. That is actually pretty impressive.

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It’s pretty good vs Shermans

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will you add new (stronger) rifles on BR II, now after Mosin M91/30, Mosin M44 carbine, Type 99 early, Type 99 late got down to BR I?

This another gun need change

German
VG 1-5 need rate of fire buff
G-43 and Sniper BR 4 need change to BR 3
ZB 29 BR4 to BR3
FG-42 BR 5 to BR 4
MBK and Stg rof 500-550 to BR 4
MKB42 sniper need recoil control buff
MG 34 with patronentrommel 34 magazine need reload speed buff same DP-mg reload time
MG 15 need reload speed buff same DP-mg reload time
M42 -100 need recoil control buff
Kz 8 cm GrW 42 mortar need change shots deviation to 200 for anti infantry

U.S.A
Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk. I (T) BR3 to BR 2
M1 carbine need rate of fire buff
Johnson rifle BR4 to BR 3
M1C BR5 to BR 3
M1928A1 BR3 to 2
M1 thompson BR 4 to BR 3
M21/28 BR 4 to BR3
M1918 BR 3 to BR 2
M1918A1 BR 3 to BR 2
Johnson mg BR 4 to BR3
M2 Carbine fix Assault class can use this gun

USSR
SVT-40 and Sniper BR to BR 3
PPSH-41 BR 5 to BR 4
PPS-43 BR2 to BR 3
Fedorov avtomat and MG why damage buff. this gun is OP
BM-41 mortar need change shots deviation to 200 for anti infantry

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