Weapon and vehicle Battle Rating changes!

Made a post about it earlier. Noticed the ppd40 and ppsh45 were down tiered to 4 but why not do the same with the premium suomi, TT ppsh 41 and mp717?

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Yeah but have they fixed the crazy out of control handling on it yet?

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… Because the Su-9 slides like a 190, maybe it will “finally” get addressed

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Imagine the face of the average Pz 3 N enjoyer when he now faces IS-1 instead of T-26 lol

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Imagine comparing equipment in different tiers. It’s dumb. But yes the is1 should of been kept in br5

Oh yeah you experienced it as well

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it’s inferior to PPS-43 and especially overpowered Wild Orangutan smg
enlisted_2025-04-17_20-18-51 it headshots like mp40 while shooting much faster, MAS-38 tries to imitate those two guns but can’t hit shit at mid range and it’s dmg is laughable you no longer can two hit tap anyone without body armor

it has power of average Soviet, American and Japanese SMGs so how it’s too strong? VMP also should be put there at BR2 as it has dreadful recoil (needs a buff)


Anyway all three are inferior to brand new Uragan smg. Plus it’s a gold order weapon #paypiggermany

yes but it can’t win matches, smgs win them

great yet another paid premium and nothing good in a TT #paypiggermany it’s cannon is the same as TT 50mm so it’s only useful against uptiers and it’s crap against infantry

it dies in a single hit and has very small amount of shells

and they were very weak at close range now with Uragan they are close to worthless

LMAO that gun is total trash

and yet it still sucks as it bounces every 4-5 shots so you will lose vs Soviet and American smgs, plus you can’t compare MG to Assaulters as Assaulters have 4 of them vs 3, only premium mgs are good enough to fight vs assaulter spammers. #paypiggermany

it’s trash inferior rof and bad recoil/dispersion, put that thing in a trash can

no it’s even worse than mp40 that is already too weak, it has dreadful added dispersion and recoil over mp40 while only getting a bit of faster rof it’s not worth it, one of the worst guns in a game

#paypiggermany

agree but it should be a TT weapon as now Soviets have similar gun but with even better dmg per shot so totally not Soviet bias? It needs a dmg buff as it can’t kill in a single shot anyway and armaguerra is laughably bad

great that you love it but i don’t, mag obscures half of your screen, just 25 rounds, bad recoil, bad dispersion, while soviets have superior pps43 and especially now Uragan that combines power of M1918 and MP40 into one.

Stacked with mediocre and also paid stuff so you just confirmed that free players experience is just unplayable as you will always be inferior and keep dying to overpowered or p2w stuff of SOV/USA. Totally not #paypiggermany it’s a shame that you need to pay money/grind events to compete why haven’t you mentioned also premium MP18? Also i have only one KP26 so i can’t compete against Soviets anyway with crappy Mp40/MP35 and MAS-38 is just inferior in every single most important metric.

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yeah it does slide a bit like the 190, but unlike the 190 it controls quite well. otherwise quite smooth and responsive

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1. Volkssturm weapons (K98 Krieg, MP 3008, VG 2, VG 1-5)
→ BR4 and made dirt cheap
Reasoning: reflecting their real life late war and cheap nature, locking to late war maps, Germany has enough stuff besides them already

2. Fedorov Avtomat
→ BR2, nerfed and reclassified into LMG
Reasoning: reflecting its real life state, flimsy and inaccurate WW1 era design, locking to early war maps, USSR could use another BR2 LMG option (BAR-like)

3. BAR 1918
→ BR2, nerfed
Reasoning: USA faction doesn’t have a single American MG on BR2, BR3 has three variants of BAR, obsolete WW1 variant

4. Puma
->BR3, buffed with a bigger cannon
Reasoning: at the very least let’s have BR1 not face late war (1944) stuff immediately in Moscow/Tunisia

5. Pz IV J and Pz IV H
->BR4
Reasoning: last ditch versions of Pz IV, should be locked to late war maps, Germany already has long barrel Pz IV on BR3, redundant

6. Fantasy stuff (Soviet post war jet, Rocket Pershing, Hori, AS, RD, Autohei, Conders, T20, Hyde, etc.)
->BR6, locked from BR5 with a ±0 MM rule
Reasoning: this stuff has literally nothing to do with WW2

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Why only the m4a2 76 version getting downtiered? the m4a1 76 should be downtiered too given it has worse cast hull armor that the a2 version

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Because it always was BR 4?

Sherman firefly should

They were tested in the troops. Quite legally in the game.

I believe more that it was really sunk, because the Germans also destroyed everything after themselves. The documents for this tank clearly state its presence (Japanese documents). Naturally, it looked different, I assume, but it was still a Ho-ri.
According to your logic, considering that the conditional Chi-Nu and other Japanese tanks did not fight, ANYWHERE at all, then it should be removed from the game. Go ahead, say it. I’ll laugh pulled out popcorn

And they also added Cold War camouflage to the game. Have fun~

If the Fedorov is getting a damage buff because of the full sized rifle round then shouldn’t all Select Fire / Semi Auto rifles in game that use full sized rifle rounds also get a damage buff?

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Agreed with the Fedorov. Nerf it, give it a stripper clip reload, reclass it as an LMG (I believe the Premium version is already classed as an LMG) and then throw it in BR 2.

It would be especially nice for early Finnish maps, if Finland was ever added to the game.

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Germany:

  • Bring STG45 + MKb42 to BR3


Both have only 50-100 faster rof than a BR2 AR and are actually less accurate than Mkb35/III with less dmg per bullet

  • Sniper Mkb42 rof nerf to 500, put at BR3, buff to recoil/dispersion

  • Gewehr 43 to BR3, buff to recoil/dispersion

  • Sniper Gewehr 43 to BR3, buff to recoil/dispersion

  • Put MP43/1 at BR4

  • Buff FNAB-38 firerate to 700 rof - keep it at BR2 to counter against power creeping Soviet and American guns

  • MP40 dispersion and recoil buffed severely it should be the most accurate smg at BR2

  • MG42 to BR3 - it’s inferior to MG34 anyway

  • Mp35/I to BR2

  • Mp717(r) to BR4

  • jadgpanzer IV + Panzer IV/70(A) to BR3

  • Panzer IV(V) to BR4

  • Sturmpistole reload buff

USA:

  • Johnson rifle to BR3

  • Johnson LMG to BR3

  • Massive buff to Charlton Automatic Rifle as it can’t hit anything

  • No change to Sten 2 keep it at BR2 it’s the same as MP40

  • Buff Austen instead of taking it to BR1

  • All Thompsons with 20 round get buff to 30 round as they are now inferior to Thompson 7.63 and M1A1 Thompson

  • M24 gets 8 rounds of APCBC shells as it has trouble with some German tanks

  • M3 Grant gets 16 rounds of APCBC shells for it’s main cannon as it has trouble with some German tanks

Japan:

  • Chi-ri to BR4
  • Type Hei LMG shield nerfed to 8 HP (from 20HP), BR increased to BR5

Change for all nations:

  • Spawnable SPAA (GAZ-MM, Falkpanzer I, M13, Ta-Se) removal of overheat, they now spawn as light vehicles separate from tanks/apcs, two of them can be present on battlefield.
  • Trucks moved to BR1
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So, did you really expect BR to stay the same forever?

Huh…

Nicolas Cage - Laughing
Dunno man. It was quite obvious that BR can be adjusted in the future. Or what if they add a 20 Mag Thompson in the TT…
This reason is so flawed on so many levels, it appeared to be doomed from the very start beyond short-term reasoning.

So great news, now you have two and no one one on Earth will stop you from keep using the BSA except you.

Dunno man. Please tell that to the Stalingrad supporters or to the people who bought the Japanese APC only to find out that it was not finished when released. I am pretty sure that is same level as some morons buying gold order guns because they thought that DF would never change BR or add new Thompsons to the TT…
Also, technically not all users must be costumers because you could earn free gold order weapons in the past.

Or free gold order tickets.

Like the fact that DF would adjust the BR rating? Funny that this never came to your mind when wasting 30 euros worth of gold in that investment.

So many you could not even name them. Got it.

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This is a semi automatic rifle. Not smg. Also the berretta m38 is super accurate and has a high rate of fire.

Doesnt this get boring?

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You need to stop trying so hard and let them just sync the ship at this point they clearly want to sync it and send us back to Moscow and Tunisia days