Cromwell tank - Wikipedia. Ordnance QF 6-pounder - Wikipedia.
The QF 6-pounder fired Fixed QF 57x307R ammunition1. A complete round weighed 9.7 lb (4.4 kg) and its projectile weighed 6 lb (2.7 kg)1. The most common types of ammunition available for 6-pounder guns were shrapnel, steel, and common shells1. In World War II, higher-yield high explosive rounds were produced1
well, I’m not against it being BR2.
The 6 pdr did not have a HE shell with 4 lbs of HE in it!!
Math this
Naval gun not fitted to tanks
are you arguing no he shell Cromwell or more he, my argument is the shell is smoll
Valentines would be sweet.
BR 2 tank IMO
6 pound gun is the better alround gun than 75 IMO…
No problem having them both in BR 2. There are other 75/76 mm HE slingers at this BR. This wouldnt be much different
IRL it was a better AT gun, but 90% of tank targets are infantry and it was not good vs them - even more so because the Valentine IX lost the coax machinegun - so it didn’t have a machine gun at all!
The exact amount of HE filling in a 6 pdr HE shell seems to be highly variable - this Australasian UXO document states from 300-400gm, this Tank Archives summary of info about US M1 57mm says the US M303 shell had 703g, which is an extraordinary amount given US, UK, German and Soviet 75-76mm guns generally only ran to 650-670gm!!
Some sources say there was a UK Shell Mk X that had 590gm of HE filler - but I haven’t found anything original about that.
I wonder if all these very high volumes of HE filler are actually misrepresented from weight in pounds rather than kg?? Ie someone has taken 0.59lb and thought it was 0.59kg …??? 0.59 lb would be 267 grams.
the amount of miscalculations units of measurement have caused, I wouldnt be suprised.
My opinion of the gun is not based on anything historically, I would be inclined just to agree with what you have found as you go to great lengths in the research of them.
My thoughts on it are purely from and ingame persepctive from Warthunder and Enlisted
I dont know what it is, but I have found the 6 pound HE in enlisted effective enough with a decent reload on the crusader and Churchhill. I am quite fond of it
75mm HE might be strictly the better HE shell (75 solid shot is trash)… but I know I would still choose the 6 pounder over it for alround capability in game
At least from my personal experience, the 6 pounder in Enlisted is a worse gun both against infantry and tanks. I’m not actually confident that it has better armour pen than the 75mm like in WT but, even if it does, it just seems to experience way more jank when shooting against other tanks compared to the 75mm even without APHE.
It has a fair bit more pen but half the mass (roughly). Since all solid shot is dog shit after pen damage its more about hitting the right spot (ammo rack). I just favour the 6 pounder with its slightly more pen and RoF