I agree that the M1919A6 should be dropped to level four, however, until we have a genuine 0/0 match making it won’t make much difference as it will still mostly be involved in level five battles. As far as the Johnson, I hate it. I don’t think it could ever be buffed for me to want to use it, but I think dropping to level three would be ok. I doubt it would get used, especially over the BAR1918A2. I have been saying for quite a while that the base BAR1918 should go to level two. I think it would be fine the way it is, however, I wouldn’t be opposed to reducing it’s ROF to say 500 base and 550 or 575 maxed. However by lowering the ROF it should also get a slight vertical recoil reduction as well. But the Allies need a decent MG at level two.
Add the BAR 1918 to level two, also the Soviets RPK 1943 magazine needs raised from 15 to 20 rounds and added to the tech tree, along with the Japanese Hotchkiss MG. The MG13 could get also benefit from a horizontal recoil buff as well. These changes would make level two MG’s very good.
Wasn’t it lowered because it was too similar to m1919 at BR5?
Should it be lowered all the way to BR 1 now to speed up the rest of this modeen balance comedy?
I don’t really understand what you’re saying here. Why shouldn’t two similar weapons be in the same BR? It makes no sense to benefit one and disadvantage the other.
Part of what would help increase the population of BR 4 is making it viable for all nations. Moving the M1919A6 is just one of many things that could help this.
Also I don’t see the point of adding the M1941 to BR 3 when the BARs exist. There isn’t an American MG at BR 2, so just reduce it’s rate of fire and put it there?
I strongly believe that better semi-autos would be the biggest factor to making BR4 more accessible. As of now, SVT-40s and ZH-29s are incredibly outclassed by weapons one tier above (it’s even worse for nations that don’t have a similar option). With that being said, Semi-autos with 12.7 (15.3)+ damage, 20+ round detachable magazines, and ~400RPM fire rates would bridge the gap a lot smoother than the current options within the tech trees.
Agreed, and the Stinger should have its 100 round belt box it was actually used with, they never used the 200 on it in combat, it made the gun too unweildy and was discarded in testing.
Though I am sympathetic with the side that thinks it’s BR 5 worthy, I flip-flop on the issue myself quite a lot, it could be good at BR 5, it has it’s uses as a very long sustained fire weapon, but idk, it’s a fair buff to make BR 4 more viable in the end I think.
I mean what options even exist there for that, not to mention all that will do is oppress BR3 instead, I think separating BR5 is both a more practical and better option instead.
atm facing BR4 as BR3 is not only completely viable, but dare I say fun. There is no such joy facing BR5 from BR4.
I mean an option here is making the current event stinger the rarer “prototype” Stinger (200) while we get a TT version with only 100? Its not ideal however it would certainly bridge the gap in capability.
I am really torn on the issue though, I both agree that it is a BR 5 weapon, borderline, but I also think BR 4 needs more love (my preffered BR if I wasn’t going to have to deal with being constantly uptiered against jets).
In the end, the only minor change I could come up with is nerfing the Stingers ammo to historical levels, which would settle the “obviously suprerior” part, but that just leaves the allies worse off. Even though it’s somewhat warranted in this case, it should never have come with a 200 box…
BR 3 in most nations is already very strong. Even with the rifles I suggest, the disparity between BR 2 and BR 3 would still be further.
As for your options: Soviets can have the SVT-40 with a 20 round magazine (same one as the AVT), US can have the Winchester G30M with a 20 round magazine, Germany can have the Mauser Flieger Selbstlader Karabiner 16 with a 25 round magazine, and Japan can have a captured Chinese North-Eastern Army ZH-29 or ZH-32 with a 20 round magazine.
There’s also an experimental 20 round magazine for the G.43, if we want 20 round magazine parity for all nations. I’ll stop discussing semi autos here, it’s not discussing the M1919A6 suggestion.
In fact, there is an option to slightly increase the rate of fire of the M1919A6 machine gun. By the way, the carrying handle on the M1919A6 in the game is post-war.
To me, the clear solution for a US level two is the BAR. It is a WW1 weapon, it served in every theatre throughout WW2, and their needs to be a US MG at level two. So, for those who think its too powerful for level two, then detune it’s rate of fire. The Soviet RPK 1943 IMOP is a bad ass MG and it’s ROF is only 500, it just needs a 20 round magazine and put into the tech tree. As it is, the level two machine gun field for the Allies is so bad that I use as few MG’s at level 2 as possible, and I even had to buy four Chatellerault’s since I absolutely hate the tech tree options. The Chatellerault is not optimal, but it IMOP is a huge improvement over the Bren’s. I have actually got to like it after I got used to it. The Johnson being level four at the moment seems kind of odd to drop it down two levels when the Base BAR is already a level lower, plus, I hate the Johnson so much I would still use the Chatellerault over it, unless it had a “MAJOR” overhaul.
I mean interesting options, however Im still opposed to it, closing the gap between BR2 and BR3 should be done sure, but creating a new gap just like it between BR3 and BR4 wont help anyone either.
Separating BR5 still seems like a better option imo.
I actually like using the Brens. The MG I hate using the most is the Type 96/99. The sights are so compressed that it makes using the Bren feel like a BAR in comparison.
So for my BR III lineup, since I like to retain some historical accuracy, I use one KE7 and two Type 11s, since the sights are much cleaner.
Yeah, I hate every tech tree Japanese MG until you get to level three, which is why I bought four Hotchkiss. The Type 97, I think the one with the scope is not bad, but I am only good with it trying to shoot at distance, and I am not great at shooting from the hip, which I have to do up close. I am not a fan of the sights on the level two Allied MG’s, but for some reason don’t hate the chatellerault sights as much. It also seems smoother when firing then the Bren’s.
Chatellerault M24/29
Bren Mk1
more because it was worse than the beltfed DP which I was suprised to see being put at BR 4. Pretty sure Beltfed DP was the first to break this boundary of 100 rounds limited to BR 5
These perhaps get BR preference because they are limited weapons over tech tree. In either case the Browning is alot nicer to use than the Bren
I don’t think it could ever be buffed for me to want to use it, but I think dropping to level three would be ok. I doubt it would get used, especially over the BAR1918A2. I have been saying for quite a while that the base BAR1918 should go to level two. I think it would be fine the way it is, however, I wouldn’t be opposed to reducing it’s ROF to say 500 base and 550 or 575 maxed. However by lowering the ROF it should also get a slight vertical recoil reduction as well. But the Allies need a decent MG at level two.
