American teams are simply bad. They have the best tech tree now and will continue to have their handheld but it can’t help them if the players are bad. Middle skill americans players also bad, but in a different way. The slightly more experienced players for americans seem to stay confined in a tank or rocket plane and spend all game trying to turn infantry into paste. It is very rare to see an american team that prefers to assault point from the flank and head on at the same time like jap teams and the tend to do. All that being said when one does encounter marshal stack fighting goblins it does not make for a pleasant experience.
The Axis has a tank advantage at BR5 and the BR2 short 75s are better at turning infantry to paste. One could also argue the MG34 is a better defensive MG at BR3 and that german BR4 equipment is better than allied BR4 across the table. However at BR2, 3 and 5 german rifles, smgs and assault rifles are substantially to slightly worse than allied equivalents. Despite this germans tend to win more games. This is simply because through some sort of dark teutonic magic they have siphoned the IQ of american players. Not because they have better equipment.
1 Like
coughs br 5 japan
While in reality German smgs and ARs are significantly weaker than USSR and USA especially smgs of br2 and br5 (if you don’t have Conders/MP717). Semi autos at BR3 are a joke same with semi sniper rifles G43 is at BR4 instead of BR3 while Soviets can jump around and nuke you with SVT-38 at BR3
3 Likes
High BR japan is utterly inferior in vehicles and relies almost entirely on the type hei auto (which flashbangs the user) the tokyo arsenal and the type 100 MG. Not to mention the utter lack of high AT weapons.
BR2 japan however, does infact slap.
ok now i know you are full of it, for starters the Ki-84 is the fastest and most maneuverable plane on in the game, it can and will reach 500 quite easily on the deck while every plane struggles to reach 460. you think with all that agility and speed it would lack in firepower right? well no, it has 2 hard hitting .50s and 2 hard hitting 20s so it’s not lacking in A2A. well what about groundpounding? also not really there since it has 2 250 kilo bombs which is also not something to scuff at.
Ho-ri’s only downside is that it’s a casemate but even then it’s extremely agile for it’s size and weight due to it’s 1100 horsepower engine giving it a horsepower per ton of 16 as compared to the 10 of T26e4 and KTH, IS-2-1944 comes close at 14 HPT but it’s also close to 30 tons lighter.
so the only real downsides of BR 5 japan is high end man AT and an arguable high end attacker
1 Like
“something totally OP”
Never fielded, never needed.
100% better then the StG and totally OP with fantasy stats. If it had more realistic stats it would be fine, but 800rd/min?! Suuuure.
APCBC through the machine gun port of any Jumbo makes me happy. US player base had the same option to kill a KT through the machine gun port, but okay. It seems to be a big problem for the player base: Instead of using their brains, they demand “wonder weapons”.
You always talk about analogues. Everything HAS to be balanced? Okay then - where is the P47 counterpart for axis? Or 15rd semi auto for BR2? I want 100 rockets too. You totally forgot about strenghts and weaknesses of every nation.
Get your 40rd BAR, I am totally fine with it. The Hyde-BS is an absolute clown show that max should be an event gun.
Seems so, sorry.
And they will demand even more, trust me. I wonder how they react when the ME262 (maybe) will be added.
3 Likes
The clown show went on. Absolutely no serious chance.
I love the double standards from US players.
When an axis KT is camping in the grey zone, it is unfair and wonder weapons or captured RPzB43 are needed ASAP.
When an US Sherman is camping in the grey zone and BR1/2 weapons cant even scratch it, it is totally fine.
I begin to love US double standards.
1 Like
bf110g-2 is what i would say but objectively it’s the JU-188 ESPECIALLY with the recent bomb changes so you have 1250 kilos of bombs to spread around
The P47 has absolutely more power. The JU188 is great, I loved it back when we had campaigns but also it is an easy target.
1 Like
in what way does it have more power? if you are talking about CAS power then you wouldn’t entirely correct since 21cm has x3-4 more filler than HVARs, while it’s lacks a bomb it does have it’s 30mm mk108 has HE and can be used on air targets too the 37mm is there i guess. i seriously don’t know why people look over the 110g-2 it’s an amazing aircraft and is the jug counterpart they wanted(it was the lvl 4 unlock back in the campaigns)
Super Pershing ain’t OP. It’s worse than the Tiger II, but is much closer to equal footing than the Pershing
Stinger is unequivocally best MG I’ll give you that, but hey aircraft MG go BRRRRRRT
P-47 dominating the skies is just historical accuracy. Lol
Oh yes tell me more about how the Allies have all of 2-3 weapons in their entire tree that was “unfielded” but literally built and tested and existed regardless much unlike the other trees
It isn’t better. The StG still has the range advantage I believe and can still beat the Hyde up close if you’re not braindead
The Sherman MG port is a giant, in your face weak spot that requires aiming at its general location to pen. The MG port on most German tanks is a literal pixel. Major, MAJOR difference. Not to mention most tanks have other options of killing Sherman’s including just penning the front plate if not a Jumbo, and the Tiger II can pen the Jumbo with few issues. This is not the “gotcha” you think it is
I would like to have somewhat comparable weapons on each team, yes. For example, I want to be able to match the range of the FG 42. The M2 Carbine absolutely will never do that. The T20 on the other hand does exactly that
I don’t know where IS the Axis P-47 counter? Probably on Gobel’s or whoever your airman was desk as a drawing. God forbid that prevent DF from adding it though! Come back when Nazi Germany created the most iconic fighter-bomber of WWII that’s well known for carrying ALL of the payload into battle
Germany didn’t have PDW’s. Can’t really help where nothing existed. Besides, M1 Carbine’s literally garbage. Everyone agrees that it’s one of the worst rifles in the game. I only use it to force myself to get good with it so I can still squad wipe a Kraut regardless of BR
That’s why I say ANALOGUES not perfect counters. Ups and downs, pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses I’m all about that stuff. Germany’s got the best tanks. Allies got the best air power. Russia has the best SMG’s supposedly. Japan has…paper. I would still like something that’s comparable to the StG, so DF added the Hyde. StG’s a little bit better, but with some effort I can use the Hyde perfectly fine. I would still like something capable of going toe to toe with the Tiger II, so DF added the Super Pershing which is something we should have regardless because it’s a tank that literally saw combat. 0 reason it shouldn’t be added. Period. Tiger II’s still better. T20 fills the full powered rifle niche left by the M2 Carbine and I personally prefer it for the range capability. Honestly I think DF has completely screwed semi and full auto rifles so there’s literally no point in even arguing over them because they aren’t implemented correctly. Recoil’s too high on semi’s, way WAY too low on full auto’s, damage is wonky, etc
Mmmm BAR
Seems you’re just a wehraboo who can’t be reasoned with then. Sorry
Laugh as you constantly over shoot the battlefield and crash into it even faster than before
3 Likes
The 250kg bombs and maneuverability are the only things the Kiko excels at. The firepower of the plane is worse than high BR Axis and Allied equivalents and has a poor amount of ammo compared to 12.7 armed planes and some 20 and 15mm guns bf109s get. The airframe is also much less durable than many allied airplanes (rightfully so they were much better armored) so ground fire from automatic rifles and AA guns are a much bigger concern. You can also get surprisingly messed up by even a small amount of turret fire from allied bomber raids. 250 kg bombs are also much worse than hvar spam at killing infantry. Kiko pilots will often have to fight 2 planes at once due to the japanese cas slot planes being atrocious and useless in a dog fight.
A german pilot cycling bf109s is a much larger threat to american pilots than the Kiko.
The Ho-Ri has an excellent gun and thats about it. I would take a Tiger 2, T-34-100 or Pereshing over it anyday. The convertible open top and buggy armor holes it suffers from make it die very easily to HVAR, flamers, molotovs and sometimes even 75 HE hitting the top of the top. The lack of a turret also limits it’s abilities to be useful closer to the point.
1 Like
The rocket bf110 is indeed slept on. It is probably the best purely cas plane at BR3. The JU188 is also extremely good especially with the latest ordinance change. In terms of pure cas germany has an advantage over allies and especially the soviets.
The P47 however is still far superior like it was in real life in that role. It can do literally everything from killing infantry with the HVARs, killing tanks with it’s bomb and it is also a good fighter aircraft that can slaughter dedicated german and jap cas aircraft while keeping up with any fighter. That being said I’m suprised darkflow never added a p-47 with the two 1000 pound bombs it was capable of carrying. It would be better at killing tanks but worse at infantry. American mains should petition darkflow for such a plane.
again wrong because it’s an light fighter with a powerful engine high it, again the only plane to easily hit 500 in the battlefield conditions, ignore the max speed on the stat card you are never EVER going to reach those since that is at the optimal altitude
you are again wrong though interestingly enough the Ho-5 cannons have practice shells in them for some reason but here is the belt list for all high tier aircraft with .50s and 20mms
Ho-5: High explosive fragmentation incendiary-practice-armor piercing tracer
Ho-103: Armor Piercing tracer-armor piercing-high explosive fragmentation
MG131: Incendiary tracer–armor piercing-tracer-immediate action incendiary
MG151/15: Armor piercing tracer- incendiary tracer-- incendiary tracer- high explosive frag tracer (interesting note we don’t have MG151/15 in enlisted yet so this is the stock belt for it)
MG151/20: Incendiary tracer- incendiary tracer- armor piercing high explosive- high explosive incendary
m2 browning with the late belts: Armor piercing incendiary tracer-armor piercing- armor piercing-incendiary
AN/M2: High explosive fragmentation incendiary- armor piercing tracer
Brezeken: Tracer- armor piercing-armor piercing-immediate action incendiary
ShVak: Fragmentation incendiary tracer-armor piercing tracer
not sure how much of the belt list makes sense but to rank it for you
.50s
- Ho-103 (has fragmentation HE in the belt and is a short belt)
- MG131 (short belt with alot of fire starting ammo)
3.MG151/15 (long belt with fragmentation HE can start fires if lucky) - M2 browning (long belt can start fires if lucky)
- Brezeken (long belt mostly armor piercing)
20s
- AN/m2( short belt with HE Frag)
- Ho-5 (medium belt starts off strong with HE frag but has a practice shell in it)
- MG151/20 (long belt that starts off each segment with 2 fire starters but has APHE and HE frag)
- ShVak (not entirely sure how frag shells only behave in enlisted, i know they were gutted in war thunder but it is a short belt)
no the Ki-84 has armor and self fueling tanks in fact compared to the common armor spot, the front glass and the back seat, it has more armor than the F4UC and the Jug
if you get downed via small arms then god bless that solider because it’s not easy to actually hit a moving target going 400 with just the mark 1 eyeballs.
this really isn’t a point against the gale since any planes because of how many guns returning fire towards you which was the reason why the box formation was chosen for bombers
worse only due to numerical difference since it can spread it out but if you use 1 hvar against a 250 kilo then the kilo would do more damage, it’s also why being able to separate drop is a massive buff to the gale since it can spread out the damage
almost every A2A engagement in enlisted is decided by who sees who first, rarely will it decent into a dogfight so if one of the 2 planes, of which only the low br western allied planes can actually fight decently well at low alts, doesn’t care for you then you can pick them off with a good burst.
however a good pilot can and will be a top priority for the enemy if they are in a good altitude
you are forgetting about it’s genuinely insane mobility, which is on par with the M24 chaffee all while being vastly heavier than it…actually do you know that the more horsepower per ton you have the more responsive the vehicle is going to be and the faster it will get to speed.
gaijin can never seem to model it right probably because of how hard it would have to be and how much resource it would take because in WT it is modelled as a close top even if the gun is all the way depressed so no rockets or bombs can get splash through, maybe one day when gaijin abandons last gen.
it’s not just a pure cas plane though, it has pilot controlled guns that have high damaging HE though yes it’s a potato launcher which is helped with the lead indicator, helpful hint lead ahead since it’s targetting center mass of the plane where the non important parts are, but still it can do it.
also not sure if anyone knows this but the 21cm rockets on the bf110g-2 can also overpressure a super pershing which is funny.
no…just no… it starts fast on spawn but it will lose that speed very rapidly in any turns and because it’s engine was meant for high altitudes, 6-7k up which where we get that max speed at, it will struggle to get any meaningful speed like yaks, 109s and the ki-84
missing also bomber
already addressed that
br 3 figther, the only they have its from event who many miss it
what?
right now ussr suffers ,lost 5matches in a row
1 Like